T-2 Nail Test Video:wink:

[Keith Southern]

Here's a video response to the Omega nail test video...Sorry it's not long but it's off my cell phone and the video quality suffer's along with the audio quality...

I set the T-2 in 1+ tone, disc was at 21, sen's was about 70.
Nails are 1860's 4 inch long.
Penny zinc 1992

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N6NC9rzsqY

I think it should show the performance of the T-2 in iron nails in an air test

Many machine's can do this and it's nothing special on a full range disc machine...

I will get my brick's out later if anyone wants to see that

Not trying to make anyone mad but performance can be gotten from a multitude of machines if set up properly not just one..

Start putting air gap's between the nail and the coin with the nail on top or turn the nail long way's through in some dirt!!!and then the problem's incur..


Keith

 

[dioramix]

unconvincing hear how you change settings.
try with the brick

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[Keith Southern]

Basically it proves it can do it in the air!!

But to a degree it proves you have a better chance of finding targets mixed in iron even with a dense packed ( Brick) soil on top of it,,,

the reason you cant hear the target in the other modes is because they are factory set for the tones to come in at certain disc ranges...When your in 2 tone on the Omega or T-2 the meter reading's below 40 are automatically iron tone The machine is hearing the target as long as the disc is low enough( I run mine on zero when in 2 tone) but it calls it iron tone.. Nails are about 21 on disc, coins 70-90 but mix the 2 together and the I.D. will be below 40 most of the swings sometimes it might jump above then you would get the higher tone but most swings will be below 40 so iron grunt win's out!

The one tone is like a conventional detector no tones just accept and reject....So even though the machine is seeing a combine coin and nail target equaling upper 20's lower 30's it will still signal because it just worries about the disc setting not the preset tone ranges...

One reason when you are really working trashy area's or iron laced areas it's better to use single tone and just dig it all so to speak...

Any form of discrimination is a handicap and when tones are involved especially on co-located target's it multiplies the handicap even more..

This is a reason I want the G2 to succeed ... Because it's just 2 tone but you can set the break point any where you like not where the factory say's.(.You have seen that targets are under 40 that can be good with these demonstration's) But by setting your own break point for particular site factor's like mineralization, trash iron etc you will be finding more and hearing the rejected target's at the same time by the low tone grunt..

I like this idea because in the wood's when walking with a typical detector without tones you can walk through nails and not even hear them and we all know where there's nails there was habitation and where there was habitation there is a potential for non-ferrous find's..I have walked though sites many times oblivious to there being nail's there so with a detector with tones and full disc we can hear these spot's and concentrate on them..The G-2 is just going to make it more easy because I like to know what I'm rejecting as much as what I am hearing and the pre set tones wont let you fine tune like this choose your own tone break setting the g2 is going to allow.

.As for a casual hunter who hunt's in park's for flash clad and such it's not that big of a deal and sadly that's what the detector markets aim there design's at...
But with the advent of microprocessor's we are starting to see thing's being incorporated into designs that use to be were expensive and impossible to please everyone ..So they went where the money was at... But now one chip can do all kind of things for the same price so we are starting to see true multi-purpose machines..

It's a great time to be involved in this hobby we will see some advances I believe beyond what we can dream of...

Hope this makes some sense????????

Keith

 

[D&P-OR]

Keith's "da man"!---and yes, he DOES know what he's doing!!!--------Del

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[dioramix]

in omega cut the entire segment of the iron and not worry in size nail.
is more convenient (notch)

 

[earthmansurfer]

Keith, a really good test would be to see when the T2 vs Omega picks up the coin when not touching the nail. This will show us a bit more on the recovery speeds. I couldn't pick up the coin within 1" or 2" with my T2. I'm curious about the T2. This is a more real world test as most of us aren't going to dig signals in the iron range (the nail on coin example) if the soil is heavy in iron, right?

So, the test could be done with the nail "up and down" and next to the coin as well as "right and left" and next to the coin. I'm reading "Advanced Detecting" by Norfolk Wolf and he goes into detail on these tests. The nail being up and down is actually more difficult than the right and left one for a detector (when the coin is not touching, but close). It's opposite though, as you stated when the nail is on a coin.

 

[Keith Southern]

was to show that the t-2 can do what the omega does....And I may add the T-2 has a slightly quicker target response over the omega...And the T-2 will see smaller target's than the omega not much but it will it's hotter across the board on conductor's than the Omega..( Again not slamming the omega and if your more after coins then the omeag will have a slight advantage over the T-2..Just like the G2 will have a slight advantage over the T-2 when it comes out on low conductor's but the t-2 is a more all around machine with plenty of power and hopefully the next incarnation will allow some of the newer designs like low noise at high gain and the ability to set your own tone break... The ultimate would be to have them all 3

It should it's there flagship detector...

I like the omega for deep bigger target's but these test mean hardly nothing I was just trying to show Dioramax the T-2 attributes after he posted that the T-2 could not do this..Well the T-2 can and other's.... I had a machine once that would hear a dime in a pair of pliers Jaw's but in the iron when hunting It was the worst machine I ever had for pulling targets..

Yes turn the nail sideway's like this ___________ on top of the coin and the target will not be heard on the omega and T-2.. maybe a pop or click but no real hit..unless you use a small thin nail..

Move the nail off to the side of the coin and most machine don't retune fast enough from one target to the other Like Norfolk wolf's video's show ... but you will find the T-2 F-75 will do it right up to the edge of almost touching..

This is the beauty of the super fast retune ( Processor) coupled with the excellent Bi-Axial coil...And on the T-2 /f-75 when allowable if you will run sens on 99 it will increase attributes..

Keith

 

[sflblack]

I twice today deleted video of a posting about the Minelab Sov.. If it continues to be posted on the Teknetics forum instead of the Minelab forum where it belongs, the poster will have a hard time viewing this page.

This brick & nail thing has brought them all out of the woodwork. I have already been barraged with complaints that we should remove the postings, both pro & con.
They can stay as long as it stays on topic for the forum.

Freddie.