I currently run a Fisher F5 and I like it I'm looking to upgrade and relegate the F5 to my back up machine or second detector and I can't decide between the Omega with the coil package or a T2. I've read good stories about both and was wanting some input from those who might have had any experience with any of the the three detectors and the pros and cons of each. I mainly coin shoot and but don't mind finding a pocket knife or ring here and there. Any input would be Helpful I've read myself silly and confused and lie in a fringe area where this no detector shops to try before I buy so as I did with the F5 I'm relying on what I read and hear from other detector enthusiasts.
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T2 or Omega
- Thread starter Coyote65
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Jackpine Savage
Active member
It has been a couple years since I used a T2 but I remember it as one heck of a good detector. the one I used was just as stable as the Omega EMI wise and was very good on coins. I hunt a lot of older sites where iron is the enemy and the PF process worked best for me with the disc set at small nail reject. The other processes just missed targets that PF called good,reading them as iron. I had good sensitivity to dimes but I feel the Omega has a slight edge there due to its lower frequency.
Ergonomically they are both great making them all day hunters with the 11" DD coil.
The T2 uses a very simple menu system that is quick and easy to navigate for initial setup at a site. The Omega's system of two knobs and a couple push buttons is just a bit quicker but I would not let that particular aspect be a deal breaker over teh T2
Both hit and ID wheat pennies accurately at 8" but I have found them deeper at the same sites with the Omega, likewise on silver dimes the Omega perhaps has a slight edge if you are listening for the softer hits.
I prefer the Omega's all metal AT mode over the T2's all metal but it is frustrating to have to turn the disc knob to activate it whereas with the T2 you simply toggle the switch.
No worries on the rings with the Omega if that is a concern.
Hmmm T2 or Omega??? how's that song go... "love the one you're with"
Hope this helps.
Tom Z
Ergonomically they are both great making them all day hunters with the 11" DD coil.
The T2 uses a very simple menu system that is quick and easy to navigate for initial setup at a site. The Omega's system of two knobs and a couple push buttons is just a bit quicker but I would not let that particular aspect be a deal breaker over teh T2
Both hit and ID wheat pennies accurately at 8" but I have found them deeper at the same sites with the Omega, likewise on silver dimes the Omega perhaps has a slight edge if you are listening for the softer hits.
I prefer the Omega's all metal AT mode over the T2's all metal but it is frustrating to have to turn the disc knob to activate it whereas with the T2 you simply toggle the switch.
No worries on the rings with the Omega if that is a concern.
Hmmm T2 or Omega??? how's that song go... "love the one you're with"
Hope this helps.
Tom Z
I have both the t2 and the omega and love them both. I think the t2 will id at depth a little more accurately than the omega however you can notch with the omega and you can't with the t2. ( The Omega with the 11 inch coil on it sometimes is off by 2 inches on the smaller coins.)
If you mostly coin shoot, get the omega with all 3 coils. You won't be disappointed.
If you mostly coin shoot, get the omega with all 3 coils. You won't be disappointed.
chillyhiker
New member
I had the same delema as you, Ive been detecting for years and have had diffrent detectors some basic and some with all the bells and whistles, for me the Omega is a perfect fit ( For Me ) great preformance not real complicated ( there is not a classroom on the forum for it) It Has notch capability to if you want to cherry pick, and its light as a feather. Then there is the price......its less expensive. Its allways tough when you usually get more when you pay more but I dont think that is the case here ...IMHO
Thanks Tom and lafatlife and Chilly, I appreciate the info, I have been leaning towards the Omega, but a friend has been pushing the T2 on me, and I think I've read every post and review from here Dankowskis and even Dave J.'s Detector Stuff website. I wanted to hear from users of both machines and get their input on both machines to get a more accurate unbiased opinion. I like my F5 but it seems every time I get a little comfortable with it along comes some EMI issues and instability with it whether it be from a nearby farm field tractor or passing cars with either cell phones or ignition noise. I was looking at the Omega and the T2 because I've they have less EMI issues. Thanks again for your input I appreciate it.
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
If you coin hunt I would get the 8000 it is deep and fast I didn't like the T2 but loved the LTD and use it for all my hunting but I loved the 8000 over the F5. And I use the 8000 with no worries that I may miss something.
Low-Boy/LCPM said:
I've read several of your posts and watched all your youtube videos, I now have one last question, would it be worth saving and getting a new F75 black or just going ahead and getting the Omega? As I said I love my F5 and have learned to deal with the EMI/instability however I do wonder if I am missing things having to turn my gain and threshold down for stability. I have watched Bill's videos running the LTD HOT or jumpy or unstable and have read several posts about EMI effecting the f75 LTD. Whats the pros and cons of the F75 LTD vs the Omegas pros and cons. About $450.00 separates the two price wise is the F75 LTD $450.00 better than the Omega?
Coyote65 said:
I have had two Omegas, and the EMI effects them in my location. On the soccer fields at the edge of town, I can usually run the sensitivity at 55-65 tops. On the nearby beaches, I can run at 90 without problems, so I know it it the location causing the EMI and not something wrong with the machine. So don't be surprised if you also encounter this on the Omega just as you report on your F5.
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
Mine is not like that when my LTD gets too much EMI I take out the Omega and it runs perfect.
OK here is my experience. I have been using a Gamma for about 3 months. I just bought an Omega. My wife and I hunted this weekend the yard of a friends old farmhouse. The location has overhead power lines across the street from the house. My wife and I fired up our detectors and they both immediately went crazy. BTW , i had already changed the frequency on my Omega as they cannot work side by side, so that was not the problem. The power lines were about 1/2 a football field away also. She and I both walked into the backyard to where the machines quieted down (about a complete football field away). To hunt the front yard we both had to drop our sensitivity to 40. I have experienced a little EMI with the Gamma being underneath pwer lines but nothing like this. As a note, I pulled a wheat penny out from 6" with the Omega with the sensitivity at only 40.
thanks for the input!..was wondering about this!..hope to get others to "chime" in here so an accurate idea of what to expect can be realized!
the f-75 is affected by e.mi as everybody is aware,however most also know that the e.m i. affect can be "mitigated" somewhat by lowering
the gain as you did with the omega...SO FAR,you are the only one that has reported a significant e.m.i. issue at a site..the reason why i am curious about this is
i have a f-75,and am concerned that with the omega's outstanding performance mounting the dd 11" coil rivaling that of the f-75 on coins,that i "perhaps"
COULD have saved the difference in money spent on the f-75,and gotten SIMILAR performance from the omega!..especially on coins...any comments?
thanks!
(h.h!)
j.t.
the f-75 is affected by e.mi as everybody is aware,however most also know that the e.m i. affect can be "mitigated" somewhat by lowering
the gain as you did with the omega...SO FAR,you are the only one that has reported a significant e.m.i. issue at a site..the reason why i am curious about this is
i have a f-75,and am concerned that with the omega's outstanding performance mounting the dd 11" coil rivaling that of the f-75 on coins,that i "perhaps"
COULD have saved the difference in money spent on the f-75,and gotten SIMILAR performance from the omega!..especially on coins...any comments?
thanks!
(h.h!)
j.t.
jmaryt said:
My point as well J.T. I eluded to the $450.00 give or take $25.00 difference between the Omega and F75 LTD. Is the LTD that much better or is a person better off going with the Omega with the 11" D.D. coil. I have heard several say the EMI doesn't effect the Omega like it does the LTD with the exception of a few people who report experiencing some EMI, I realize lowering the settings can mitigate the EMI but do you loose the depth advantage that the LTD is known for. Does lowering the LTD's settings to combat the EMI say bridge the depth gap between the Omega and LTD. I also realize some run their detector HOT or don't mind some of the instability/chatter while hunting, I can take it for a bit but ultimately back it down for it gets to bugging me after awhile, then you wonder if you're missing something. From the comments received so far I've narrowed my next detector choice to the Omega or breaking the bank for the F75 Black LTD, I'm just trying to figure out if the F75 is worth the extra not only for myself but for others as well who may have the same dilemma of choosing either their first or next detector.
Thanks and H.H.
an excellent point!..well taken!..one wonders IF by "dropping" the gain on the f-75 to mitigate the noise and chatter,IF depth is adversely effected.
IF this IS GENERALLY the case,then a very good argument can be made for acquiring the omega,and foregoing purchasing the f-75,OR the f-75 l.t.d?
again this is especially important to know,IF one is mostly "coinshooting!"
(h.h!)
j.t.
IF this IS GENERALLY the case,then a very good argument can be made for acquiring the omega,and foregoing purchasing the f-75,OR the f-75 l.t.d?
again this is especially important to know,IF one is mostly "coinshooting!"
(h.h!)
j.t.
Coyote65 said:
Ultimately I think only you will know which machine to get. I have both the Omega and the F75 LTD. I haven't really had any major EMI issues as some have with my LTD, and the Omega is smooth as can be with the sensitivity cranked to 99 in most of the places I've taken it to, except one. There's one spot that when they fire up the street lights, it reeks havoc on any machine I've had there, except my CZ-70. Yes I can turn the sensitivity down and they'll run OK, and silver coins aren't much deeper then 6"-7" there so ultra depth isn't required. I think you're probably correct that reducing the sensitivity down on the LTD will make it on par with the Omega in depth, BUT what if you have to turn the sensitivity down on the Omega, then the LTD will still trump the Omega. I don't know what kind of hunting your into, but if you run into a situation where you need ultimate depth, then the LTD will be your ticket, but if you really don't need ultimate depth, then I'd say go with the Omega.
HH,
Brian
[/quote]Ultimately I think only you will know which machine to get. I have both the Omega and the F75 LTD. I haven't really had any major EMI issues as some have with my LTD, and the Omega is smooth as can be with the sensitivity cranked to 99 in most of the places I've taken it to, except one. There's one spot that when they fire up the street lights, it reeks havoc on any machine I've had there, except my CZ-70. Yes I can turn the sensitivity down and they'll run OK, and silver coins aren't much deeper then 6"-7" there so ultra depth isn't required. I think you're probably correct that reducing the sensitivity down on the LTD will make it on par with the Omega in depth, BUT what if you have to turn the sensitivity down on the Omega, then the LTD will still trump the Omega. I don't know what kind of hunting your into, but if you run into a situation where you need ultimate depth, then the LTD will be your ticket, but if you really don't need ultimate depth, then I'd say go with the Omega.
HH,
Brian[/quote]
Thank you Brian, I mainly coin shoot but now and again and I'm after them deep silver coins, several of the places I hunt have been hunted to death but there is still finds there. I watched a fellow clubmate pull a merc from 9 inches with his minelab. There is also some EMI around that effects my F5 and I couldn't find that dime he plucked because I had my Gain and Threshold back down due to the EMI.
HH,
Brian[/quote]
Thank you Brian, I mainly coin shoot but now and again and I'm after them deep silver coins, several of the places I hunt have been hunted to death but there is still finds there. I watched a fellow clubmate pull a merc from 9 inches with his minelab. There is also some EMI around that effects my F5 and I couldn't find that dime he plucked because I had my Gain and Threshold back down due to the EMI.