Target ID Question

[Ron Y]

Hi Everyone,

When I get what seem like a good flutely return, some have a grunt on the end.

It sounds like a big bass drum on the end of the good signal.

Is this Iron,could not find a target?

I've found mostly dimes and pennies and a nickel ( all clad). This is my second outing with the SE Pro. I'm coming off a XT-70.

I'm running factory start up with 11' pro coil,digging it all to start with. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ron

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Almost impossible to guage over printed text. A "sound" is difficult to explain in print. It has to be heard to really convey what you're saying.

Gather a bunch of different items for an air test, and make careful mental note of what sounds you're getting. Even scotch tape a rusty nail at various angles and proximeties to a coin, on a piece of cardboard. Wave at various speeds, distances from the coil, etc... Try iron alone, tabs, foil wads, coins, etc... Then when you get into the field, you will have a better understanding of what you're hearing, since air tests will mimic the sounds of the same targets in the ground.

And as for what the real deepies sound like (ie.: "what's a whisper on an Explorer?"): About the only way to really know that, is to hook up with a proficient user (not just a sandbox hunter, but someone who actually routinely comes in with the oldies from turf), and ask him to flag some suspected deep (over 7") coin-type signals. Watch the way they swing, listen for the sound they're trying to isolate, etc.... Only THEN will the "lights go on" and the tooty-fluty orchestra will make sense. No amount of printed text can make up for a single 5 minute flagged target test with a pro. I too spent countless hours on emails with pro's, and try as they may, none of what they typed out for me made a bit of sense. Everything to me sounded the same, like a flock of sick geese. But the minute I actually went out into a park, and the guy flagged a few 8" deep silver dime/wheatie type signals, BAM! then it made sense.

 

[Ron Y]

Thanks for the reply Tom

I see what your saying

 

[Hotcz70]

Hi Ron.

The explorer is a different animal than most others.

Just make sure you don't worry about trying anybody else's settings or tinkering with anything for the first few outings.

Do exactly what you are doing right now. Stay in the factory presets for as long as need be. How long that is depends on your available hunt time as well as how well you adapt to all the sounds rambling through the headphones.

The more time you spend figuring out the language it speaks...the more you will be rewarded down the road.

Take your time...swing it sloooow.

 

[dewcon4414]

I have to say a couple of times just isnt enough. You are going to spend a lot of field time with this machine. There is no substitute for being around a good hunter like was said. Once you get the sound of iron bounce that helps. Some of it is just watching how the cursor reacts on the smartscreen. There is a lot of info there for a beginner. You can get a feel for it if you look at your depth meter... if you start getting broken high tones at say 6" and the cursor tend to stay to the left of bounce left, at that depth its very likely iron. On the 8" or deeper... now there comes the tallent being able to seperate of the tones and rely less on screen. Do you have a X-1 probe? when you are in the hole if you use pinpoint you are going to find something even if its iron. Your finds are going to be in the toilet for the first 6 months or so except for clad... they will gradually start picking up. Stick with it... my saying is ..Never sell a machine until it pays for its self..

Dew

 

[Ron Y]

Bryce,

Thanks for the advice, I understand it's a learning process that I'm more than willing to go through.

I use to be able to name that tune in three notes.(LOL). Hunt time is no problem, I'm retired and it's my main hobby(every day).

I love our hobby.

DEWCON,

Yes I am ready for this challenge, I am using a Detector Pro Pinpointer, which is basically a PI machine.

I see now I need a X-1 probe.I love the SE and I will never give up, It's not in my DNA to quit.It's great to have you guys there.

Thanks Again,

Ron

 

[treasurefiend]

Great advise above!!! I am new to recreation MD'ng, just about a year. One of the things you can do when your high tone ends with a thud is isolate the target by walking in a circle while detecting and try to make a tiny swing to hopefully separate it from any possible iron if at all possible. Then hit the pinpoint button and see where the cursor pinpoints on your smart find screen as you make more tiny swings. If it goes up to the right it has a good chance of being a coin near some trash.

Also I have also found coins that when I did the above but when I pinpointed it would go side to side on the top line but it would go to the upper right more or stick in the upper right then bounce over to iron. This isn't 100% but I have found coins by doing this, but on that same note I have also dug lots of tiny nail heads and metal slag. Try it out a few times and you may be surprised with a coin super close to some garbage.

 

[dewcon4414]

The pinpoint is an excellent tool for ID, just remember like Bryce said before, if there is iron closer to the surface masking the target 9 times out of 10 it will lock onto the iron. Dig a plug and recheck the hole.. if it goes away likely its iron. The X-1 does a great job at giving you an extra 3 iches or so that you dont have to dig Ron and as you know its all about not spending your time digging worthless holes. Ive never used the Detector Pro, but ive heard its a darn good pinpointer. Now i have used a few handhelds and most gave me feedback that i hated with very little depth. Im retired as well Ron... but my honeydew list is too large to let me hunt every day. Really sounds like you have the skill but finding a talented person who uses the explorer to hunt with will dramaticly improve your skills.

Dew

 

[Ron Y]

Treasurefiend,

Good stuff, makes perfect sense,the ground here in PA is saturated from all the rain we've had.

Maybe this has amplified the effect. Another thing on my list is a small coil.I have much to learn, but that is half the fun,

I have both Andy's books,Great stuff. Oh, By the Way, I really enjoy your videos.

Thanks,
Ron


Dewcon.

Yes Honeydo lists, that thing that never gets shorter, they cut into my detecting also.

I try to detect every day,even if only an hour or so. (After I'm done with my chores)lol Unless I can sneak away, but those darn cell phones.

Thanks Again,

Ron