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Holedigger

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Generally speaking, when I make a major financial upgrade purchase such as an automobile, washing machine or metal detector, I think of a few questions.
1. Does the new machine accelerate my task faster than the one I have? Will it get me to my goal faster (find deep/masked coins)?
2. Does the new machine improve the milage I have with the old one(past performance, depth, dependability, discrimination, battery life)?
3. Does this new machine have even more bells-whistles- and trinkets that are complicated and I will never use?
4. Does the manufacturer state the performance of the machine is better than the previous model(s) for its application of going from point A to point B?
Personally, if there is no documented tests and/or proof in acceleration, milage or comfort, why go into debt for a few more bells-whistles- and trinkets (software) you may never use. If you don't smoke you still pay for the lighter and ash tray in a new vehicle. The power windows and cruise control does not help the fuel milage or laying rubber on the road.
Just some provocative ideas to consider before you think about spending your hard earned money for a machine that "may or may not" improve your success. HH
 
Jerry,I think you should use the spelling check feature on your
computer once in awhile.If you are going to whine about someone's
opinion on something,at least use the right punctuation and spell-
ing when you do it. Gary
 
Gary, maybe your right i should not whine about someone's opinion. It just bugs me when someone tries to influence other people into thinking they should not buy a product they don't want to buy. Fine don't buy it, but don't try to compare cars to detectors. Last time i checked a car is something you have to have to get from point A to point B. Detecting is a hobby and if i want to spend 1200.00 on a detector that's my business. I don't know Holedigger and i'm sure he's a very nice person, and i probably should have kept my mouth shut. Also does it make you feel superior to correct someone spelling and punctuation?
Just curious.

Jerry/ORegon
 
but be prepared to he jumped on by those that don't share these analytical views....I posted something similar a couple weeks ago and seem to have made some enemies (and some new friends)! I think you hit the nail right on the head. Of course the other factor that comes in to play is that everyone has a different propensity to save/consume. Regards, Erik
 
at least we are not being asked to shell out TOO much more, if not the same,in terms of bying an up to date version of the Explorer SE It's not way over the price of the a brand new Explorer 2 detector, which has gone down in price a little.

It may actually seem to make the earlier Explorers redundant to those who may have need of these more "refined" features that the SE offers.

There really isn't that much difference in the price for these extra improvements on the hardware and improved software over the last model.

The style and release of the current SE, might even suggest that the last model, the Ex2 may have lacked appeal in it's looks and performance.

To others it may now appeal even more over and above what was available and fortunately we have an option of choice. I like the SE and I still like my EX 2 and EX XS.........but out of the three, I think I like the SE most.

Hard Nose Dave
 
Hi Dave...or others
Do you honestly notice any increased depth? I am wondering if I will be able to go back over my same ex2 spots and pick up coins I might have missed. I'm not so much concerned with the bells and whistles...just wonderin'if anyone can honestly notice a little extra depth?
 
I have been using the SE now for one week, around 3 or 4 hours a day. I don't think im getting extra depth, but im getting better separation between targets. Because it's faster at identifying targets that are close together. As far as depth goes, i will be detecting with some people Thursday and Saturday who have EX-2's, so i should know more by this weekend, as we plan on comparing the two against each other. Both the guys im detecting with are wondering the same thing before they buy. So far the deepest target i have dug was a copper penny at a measured 8.5 inches, which is not bad, but i've dug them that deep with EX1. (Using the 10.5 coil that came with the SE.)

Jerry/Oregon
 
I'm interested to know how the machines compare side to side. Also how does it compare in weight and ergonomics. Does it actually feel better balanced and somewhat lighter?
 
Better balanced a little, lighter not really. I think the coil is a little easier to swing. The Explorer has never felt heavy to me, i guess to some it does. I will let you how this weekend turns out.

Jerry/Oregon
 
I should not have used analogies and compared apples to oranges, and cars to metal detectors. I didn't mean to stir up a hornets nest or stress an intellect. The only point I wanted to genuinely express was, "will you find more treasure with the SE compared to the XS or Exp. II for the money". Unless new and improved technology is incorporated into the product, the answer is a resounding, no. I have gone out MD at times with individuals using the obsolete XS and me using my state-of-the art Explorer II. I usually get my gluteus maximus handed to me on a plate. The reason is, they invested many hours getting to know their machine. There is no current technology that will allow someone to spend $1,300.00 for the state-of-the art detector and out perform someone spending many hours learning with his old machine in the field, period! With the preceding said and in my opinion, the question becomes, do I save a few hundred dollars and buy the exceptional and proven XS or Exp. II or take a chance and buy the more expensive SE? My money is on the guy that spends many hours in the field and knows how to use his old detector... Happy Finds Guys!
 
Holedigger, you absolutely right. On the other hand the SE does have improved technology incorporated into it (so says Minelab). The question is are these improvements going to help someone find something they would not have found with the SX or EX2. After using the SE for a week now, it's my opinion the jury is still out.

Jerry/Oregon
 
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