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Test Range and Real-World Test of 4.5 x 7" Excel Coil...Pics Part ONE

This bad boy is hot!

I took it out today to my backyard test range where I have about a dozen deep targets buried in hard, dry ground for like 6 years now. All are at least 6 and as much as 10+ inches. There's a power line buried out there too that will make the machines pulse if you set them too "hot" most of the time. So it's TOUGH.

The SE with the 10.5" coil would not hit MOST of the targets if the sens was set above 24. When set to 20 it would hit them all. That was consistent with my Explorer II that needed to be at 18 to hit them all. The SE seems a little more sensitive. The cool thing about the 4.5 x 7 was that I could run it back there at 30! It was getting a little pulsing at 32 and a little unstable so I dropped it to 30 and it was great. It got all but the deepest silver dime at 10"...the signal on that was poor. The bullet and all coins at 8" or less it hit great. It also hit the silver quarter at 10" and the most amazing was that it hit the 7" and 10" nickels SOLIDLY and with great tone and ID. My CZ won't even hit the nickels that well and the SE with the stock coil is nowhere near as good. So that's interesting.

So then I went to a WELL POUNDED hunt site. Well pounded is an understatement...it's had to have been hunted a 100 times, with the best. It's a little place we call The Barber House and it's been hunted by me and several other folks now for about 6 years...it's actually an empty lot about 2/3's the size of a football field that used to have 3 houses on it. They've been gone for years. What remains is a lot of rusty nails and some very tough hunting ground...roof tacks, nails, various other scrap and trash. But before the houses were torn down we hunted the yards and got a BUNCH of silver...lots of Barber dimes and quarters, Mercs, a Franklin half, Indians, Large Cents, buttons back to Colonial times, and much more. After the houses were torn down it was hunted repeatedly, by me and a half dozen others. Garrett, Whites, Minelab, Fisher, Nautilus, etc. Most folks have LONG since given up on it. Whenever I get a new machine or coil, I go there to test it. The SE found me an Indian and a Merc there when I first got it, in about 4 or 5 hours of hunting it, so that was SOMETHING. We'd all missed 'em before.

TODAY, with the little coil, in 3 hours, I found more than I have found out there in the last 3 or 4 outings. There was iron in EVERY swing. But the little coil danced all around and in between it. Got killer depth too. First target out of the ground was a button from the 1830's that was about 8" deep under a root and surrounded by iron. Second was an old skeleton key. Next a wheatie...1912. Then a 1954 wheatie. Then a 1918 Buffalo nickel, a 1943 war nickel (silver) and a 1951 silver Rosie dime. Not bad for a place that's HUNTED OUT. Apparently not. And may not be for a while now that I have this coil. I LOVE this thing!

This button is sitting on a big root. It was deep in the hole behind the root, at least 8 inches. [attachment 45633 4by1Small.jpg]

I like this skeleton key. I found another like it after Hurricane Isabel down at the oceanfront.
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Deep, but nice sound a solid numbers...
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1912 wheatie...
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This sounded SWEET!
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Silver...not too old, but hey!
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Of course, none of this stuff is really extraordinary...the extraordinary part is it's from a "dead" site. Goes to show that with the right coil, things can take on a different perspective. And you just might get back some MOJO at some former sites. I have a few places to re-visit now! :)

War nickel...
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Down there good...
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Group shot...
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Another...1918 Buffalo in lower right...nasty.
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Button is marked W. H. Jones & Co. According to the link below, 1830's.
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Check this link...button backmark info site:
http://pweb.netcom.com/~jimyce/bm.html
 
Now you have me curious about one of those Coils. Have you ever tried the Joey Coil? I have one of these and I was wondering if there were any advantages between the 2 different Coils. You did great and I am sure you will be making more nice finds at your old spots again. Very Impressive Coil thus far Mike! Hope to see more on that Coil as you get out with it more. I might just have to order me one for the heck of it and see if I get the same results. I will be thinking of it as more results come in on that nifty little coil you got. Continued Good Luck and HH Mike!:thumbup:
 
(Our Big Buddy) sent me a 4.5 X 7" .... awhile back too. :)

I have about 16 hours on it so far and it's the absolute BEST small coil I've ever used, got one for my MXT as well. My MXT with this 4.5 X 7" is remarkable too but lacks about 2" in depth compared to the Explorer no matter how I set it up.

Now if I can ever get a day off and the weather will cooperate, I plan on taking out a NEW experimental 10 X 14" that looks awfully promising and put some real time on it.
Earlier this week I used it at a site that was once a "black powder only" Turkey Shoot spot that dates back into the late 1800's through 1936.
I've found enough 3 ringers there to fill a 5 gallon bucket in previous hunts among some other nice goodies.
This coil is going to be a keeper for sure, if it weighs as much as the stock coil I'd be surprised ... and it has the depth of the WOT but doesn't KILL your arm to use it. Now don't hold me to that remark about weight because I don't have a scale to weigh it.... but it sure feels lightweight for such a BIG coil. More to come on that soon.
Wish we lived closer to each other so I could run it over that nice Virginia soil and see what happens.
For those that don't have this 4.5 X 7" coil ... well, order one and see what you're missing ... literally !

Nice post Mike

Good Hunting
Mike
 
have shown me that the difference between the standard 5" excel coil "(hockey puck)" and the 4.5x7" excel coil. The 4,5x7" defiantly is more stable and has greater depth. I will be ordering me one today:super: I cant wait to hit some of those "worked out" sites too. Ditto on that concise field report Mike. Happy Hunting Grounds,

Savage. (EX-II)
 
I've only been working about ten hrs. a week or I'd have one on the way myself...figured it would be a great little coil...thanks for update....NOW get back to the Barber house & clean it up!!!...TT
 
I just got my 4.5x7 coil and have to agree . I am finding deeper targets. Was out yesterday and found 6 Wheaties in sites that I have dug before and been over with my 10.5 coil.I am running my sense at 22 by will try 30 like you suggest. What Discrimination Pattern Thumbnail are you selecting or rejecting ? I feel I am missing some of the targets by not selecting the correct patterns . Thanks
 
I am really glad you like it. I just dug a Barber QT, shield nickle, and barber dime that was in the iron trash. Iron was in the hole with the coins. It is hard to impress me but, this little coil sure does that. I been telling these guys all a long about this little coil but nobody believed me. I guess they thought I was blowing smoke :rofl:. Have fun with the little coil. I thought I would get a 4X7" for my MXT but since you say the SE does better then your MXT I think I will now hold off. The 4X7 is better then my Joey coil as I can run the 4X7 at 32 and can only run the Joey at 26-28 max. Later Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
I haven't tried the Joey, no. I have been thinking of getting a Sunray 8" though. Not sure if I will now. As of now, I have the 5" puck, the 4.5 x 7, the stock 10.5", anb the Excelerator 12.5". Not sure if I need the 8" or not. Your thoughts?
 
Hey, *I* believed you...I GOT one!

I ran mine at 32 today...unreal that I can do that. It was in real bad iron too...farm field, around the wreckage of an old barn/stable area. Horrible iron, rusty nails, lots of scrap. Pulled a '57 Rosie, '17 Merc, and a '44 wheatie from this HAMMERED site. I'm a believer!
 
That was the wheatie. Remember, this place is an IRON PIT...the numbers can get thrown off a bit. Although for a moderately patina'd wheatie I don't think 01-26 is too far off.

The balance and weight are great...perfect. Could swing it all day.
 
I run it wide open...Iron Mask ON and all the way to the left...All Metal. I LISTEN to it all but dig what I want to. If you run a pattern, especially in trashy ground, you will miss good targets more due to nulling out. When you can hear it all, the recovery time is quicker and you hear more good targets. I still run deep on a fast off with the small coil and I had the sens on 30 most of the time and 32 some of the time and Gain at 6 and it was very well behaved.
 
LOL...if I git you hooked on the Excal I have done my good deed to get me into Minelab heaven. That's a great machine for the beach, and all I use there. I like the way it hunts the beach better than the Explorer. I like the Explorer mostly for land, although I know it can hunt the hell out of the beach. I just like HOW the Excal hunts better on the beach. It's not as deep as the Quattro of the Explorers on the beach though...fact. Depth isn't everything though.
 
I hunt so much and by the time I get everything read on the Find Mall forums I am ready for the bed. You know we old guys have to get there sleep so we can get up and go hunting the next day :rofl: . I am waiting for you to take the SE to the beach and let me know if yours does the falsing when you scrape the wet sand. Good report on the little 4X7" Mike . I find mine does excellent in the trash and it really performs above my expectations everyday I use it. Now go back and really clean out that Barber House. It works excellent in the iron Trash. :D: :D: :bouncy: Later Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
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