Andy Sabisch
Active member
The hot topic on the forums of late seems to be the new 11" coil for the Deus and as previous posts have alluded to, the demand will likely outstrip the supply when it is initially released.
I have had the opportunity to run it through its paces recently and was given the green light to provide some details on the coil and field questions that people may have. So with that, I wanted to provide some background information on the coil and a peak at some of the results I experienced. More will be coming in a report that will be posted on XP America's website shortly.
Alain and his team have spent a good deal of time designing this accessory and it is not simply a different sized coil . . . . a good deal of effort went into the design both internally as well as in the construction itself. Surprisingly, the weight of the coil - despite being 2 inches larger than the stock coil - is only a few ounces more than the 9" coil. Other design features in the coil produce increased detection depth even on coin-sized targets and as one knows, if you are in a site where depth is king, an additional inch can often reopen sites others (including yourself) have written off as being worked out.
People have asked about the mounting point based on comparing the 9" coil to the 11"x13" coil in which the larger coil appeared "nose heavy". Well, the 11" coil does not mount in the center like the 9" coil but rather slightly behind the center point. Personally I did feel the coil was a tad nose heavy but after hours in the field with it, there was no discomfort. I guess I was simply used to the weight (or lack thereof) of the smaller coil and noticed a difference in the 11" coil but after the initial testing, the difference was negligible. But in case people want a different mounting point, I understand that a new block for that purpose is under development by a third party - more to come on that so stay tuned (details will be provided in the Deus Newsletter when available). The photo below shows the mounting point in case you are interested in that.
More details on the actual field test results will be posted soon and the report on the coil will be posted on the XP America's site by the end of the month but I did want to pass along what I experienced in my own yard after going through my test garden.
TEST RESULTS
I spent some time in my test garden testing the 11" coil with various programs and settings and comparing it against the other two coils that are already available. Overall, the performance exceeded my expectations and I had high hopes for it in some of the older, less trashy sites I knew still held some keepers. After I wrapped up the testing I thought I would take one quick walk through the side yard of my house which dates back to the early 1900's . I have hunted every inch of the yard - or so I thought - so was not expecting much.
Less than 5 feet into the yard I got an "82" that sounded surface yet showed a quarter black . . . and pulled a 1905 Indian Head penny from the ground. Stunned I continued and got a "90" with the same black showing and a 1906 Barber dime appeared . . . now I was scratching my head . . . .
But the last signal was the winner . . . . 2 feet from a tree I know I have gone past 100 times, I got a clear, repeatable signal that was reading in the low to mid 90's. Only a sliver of black was showing on the horseshoe. I checked the area with a pair of other detectors - both with 11" coils - and nothing. The yard has iron throughout it - small and large - and that may be the factor; however, the Deus hit the target cleanly.
Going into the garage I came out with a spade and pulled out a deep plug - and checking the hole saw that the target was still in the hole. Still sounding good, I began to wonder if it was a large piece of iron that was reading in the upper region in terms of TID values. After all, I had hunted this area countless times and the signal was simply too clear to have been missed before right? I pulled some more dirt out and checked it with the pinpointer. It was still in the bottom of the hole and as you can see, it was down 3 inches past the depth of the ProPointer . . . a good 12"+!
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I pulled out a medal and after cleaning it up, saw that it was a boxing medal with the date 9-9-30 engraved on the back and 2nd place stamped into it.
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Those are the priceless finds I love to find . . coins are great but this is truly a one of a kind find . . . a 2nd place medal from September 9, 1930! Now the research begins to see what I can find out about the medal and possibly even the person that received it. (P.S. - If anyone has some information on this show or the promotor that might help me track it down I'd welcome the help . . . . )
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So as additional reports come in on the new coil, I think the consensus will be that XP has "hit another one out of the park" with the 11" coil design both in terms of weight and performance.
If anyone has specific questions that I can field, I would be happy to provide what additional information I can . . .
Andy
I have had the opportunity to run it through its paces recently and was given the green light to provide some details on the coil and field questions that people may have. So with that, I wanted to provide some background information on the coil and a peak at some of the results I experienced. More will be coming in a report that will be posted on XP America's website shortly.
Alain and his team have spent a good deal of time designing this accessory and it is not simply a different sized coil . . . . a good deal of effort went into the design both internally as well as in the construction itself. Surprisingly, the weight of the coil - despite being 2 inches larger than the stock coil - is only a few ounces more than the 9" coil. Other design features in the coil produce increased detection depth even on coin-sized targets and as one knows, if you are in a site where depth is king, an additional inch can often reopen sites others (including yourself) have written off as being worked out.
People have asked about the mounting point based on comparing the 9" coil to the 11"x13" coil in which the larger coil appeared "nose heavy". Well, the 11" coil does not mount in the center like the 9" coil but rather slightly behind the center point. Personally I did feel the coil was a tad nose heavy but after hours in the field with it, there was no discomfort. I guess I was simply used to the weight (or lack thereof) of the smaller coil and noticed a difference in the 11" coil but after the initial testing, the difference was negligible. But in case people want a different mounting point, I understand that a new block for that purpose is under development by a third party - more to come on that so stay tuned (details will be provided in the Deus Newsletter when available). The photo below shows the mounting point in case you are interested in that.
More details on the actual field test results will be posted soon and the report on the coil will be posted on the XP America's site by the end of the month but I did want to pass along what I experienced in my own yard after going through my test garden.
TEST RESULTS
I spent some time in my test garden testing the 11" coil with various programs and settings and comparing it against the other two coils that are already available. Overall, the performance exceeded my expectations and I had high hopes for it in some of the older, less trashy sites I knew still held some keepers. After I wrapped up the testing I thought I would take one quick walk through the side yard of my house which dates back to the early 1900's . I have hunted every inch of the yard - or so I thought - so was not expecting much.
Less than 5 feet into the yard I got an "82" that sounded surface yet showed a quarter black . . . and pulled a 1905 Indian Head penny from the ground. Stunned I continued and got a "90" with the same black showing and a 1906 Barber dime appeared . . . now I was scratching my head . . . .
But the last signal was the winner . . . . 2 feet from a tree I know I have gone past 100 times, I got a clear, repeatable signal that was reading in the low to mid 90's. Only a sliver of black was showing on the horseshoe. I checked the area with a pair of other detectors - both with 11" coils - and nothing. The yard has iron throughout it - small and large - and that may be the factor; however, the Deus hit the target cleanly.
Going into the garage I came out with a spade and pulled out a deep plug - and checking the hole saw that the target was still in the hole. Still sounding good, I began to wonder if it was a large piece of iron that was reading in the upper region in terms of TID values. After all, I had hunted this area countless times and the signal was simply too clear to have been missed before right? I pulled some more dirt out and checked it with the pinpointer. It was still in the bottom of the hole and as you can see, it was down 3 inches past the depth of the ProPointer . . . a good 12"+!
[attachment 274054 11inch_1.png]
[attachment 274055 11inch_5.jpg]
I pulled out a medal and after cleaning it up, saw that it was a boxing medal with the date 9-9-30 engraved on the back and 2nd place stamped into it.
[attachment 274056 11inch_3.png] [attachment 274057 11inch_4.png]
Those are the priceless finds I love to find . . coins are great but this is truly a one of a kind find . . . a 2nd place medal from September 9, 1930! Now the research begins to see what I can find out about the medal and possibly even the person that received it. (P.S. - If anyone has some information on this show or the promotor that might help me track it down I'd welcome the help . . . . )
======================
So as additional reports come in on the new coil, I think the consensus will be that XP has "hit another one out of the park" with the 11" coil design both in terms of weight and performance.
If anyone has specific questions that I can field, I would be happy to provide what additional information I can . . .
Andy
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Jerry.
Jerry.