The LTD for coinshooting.:smile:

[jim tn]

I am only speaking from my personal experience, but I feel the F 75 LTD is a excellent coinshooting detector. I know the F 75 certainly was, so why not the LTD?

Some seem to think the bp mode may be to much in the trash. It is the extra punch and sensitivity of the bp mode that is finding me coins that I didn't with my F 75, cz3d and a Tesoro. And quite honestly, I don't know any old coin yielding sites that aren't very trashy. Many of these coins are "on edge" recoveries that were either to faint for me to hear previously with other detectors or just didn't sound right. The bp mode "boosted" the tone enough for me to dig the target.

I run my LTD pretty hot, much like I did with my F 75. I have gotten used to hearing every target under the coil and feel that helps ME find the more desirable targets that are at some depth, slanted or on edge and being masked or partially masked.

In the nearly three months now I've been using the LTD, never has emi shut it down. Granted, I have had to make some adjustments on occasion, such as frequency shifting, lowering sen., using some higher amount of disc. or going to the LOW GAIN mode, but never have I yet been totally shut down as a result of severe emi. Yes, there may be some depth loss, but I've still been able to recover good targets at more then adaquate depth.

HH

jim tn

 

[gmanlight]

Hi Jim what type of soil do you hunt in . I ask because after reading the thread on Vid readings i am a little confused.
I run my standard F75 on the hot side and only use Vid as backup info too tone ID .
My Vid is pretty good on targets. But with the LTD and a bigger Vid range how do you know what to dig.
When you say [coin-shooting ] are you talking new and old .
I tend to hunt older site and if at a park i am still looking for a lonely silver left behind Thanks Mike

 

[cometguy]

Hey Jim,
I think many of us are going through a learning stage on the LTD. Many of us didn't come through the regular F75 to get here. I am going back to the instruction booklet and rereading during this "too wet to hunt" week in Indiana. I can see amazing potential with the LTD. It hits coins hard and will even pull you out of your regular swing and path with a nearby signal. I have decided to tone things down a little, search, and then crank it up and search again. I think this will help me get more time in and let me have some fun while I am learning. Thanks for sharing.

HH, Don

 

[boxofchocolates]

Yes Jim me also......I'm new to fisher machines period but found things in my own yard other machines missed.....I'm enjoying learning this one.....hh......God Bless.......Dan

 

[jim tn]

Mike, as the norm, my ground g/b's usually in the low to mid 60's with fe,o, of .03 usually. I also hunt by tone first and foremost and then see what the target(s) read. For coin hunting, I almost always use 3h and 4h tones. The use of each, depends on the age of the site, hence, the potiential for coins older then wheats. I'll use 4h. Although my LTD seems to read coins higher then does my F 75, (except nickels) each type of coin does seem to be pretty consistant. I've seen no difference between Rosies, Mercs. and Barbers, such as Cal Cobra has found. Clad coins do read lower then silver coins. Each group just higher then I am used to. Although I dig few targets that I would consider "lockons," I am hunting sites for old coins that are very trashy. Sites like old housing developments, old parks, house sites, ect.

When I first got my F 75, after spending several hours in the pre set modes, I hunted for a long time in de process, disc. of 6, sen. of 75-80 and 3h tones...and found a lot of old coins. When older coins became less frequent on some of my more frequented sites, I then went to disc. 0, sen. into the 90's and continued with 3 and 4h tones. This setup found me numerous more old coins that I had, for whatever reasons, previously missed. Now, with the LTD running in the bp mode and sen. about 90, I am again pulling some pretty tough targets from these previously hunted hard sites. As I've mentioned, some of these targets are masked or partially masked and or, slanted and on edge and, a few are at pretty good depths.

I think those new to the F 75 and F 75 LTD should start out with tamer settings. As one learns what all these sensitive and very rapid target respnse detectors are saying, then crank them up if that should be ones desire.

HH,

jim tn

 

[Cal_Cobra]

It sounds like I hunt the same stomps as Jim, and my finds have definitely gone up using the LTD. Coming from the F70 the LTD was easy to pick up and I was used to all the noise when using higher settings. I just feel that it's missing some things, but seemingly no one machine will get it all. I would say that thus far my two favorite machines are the CZ70 and the LTD.

Nasa Tom posted this comment on his site about using high sensitivity:

Remember, the T2/F75/LTD pose a paradox; the HIGHER the Sens/gain.....the better the audio resolution of targets (esp in masking situations)......in most cases. Yes, there enters the 'human-fatigue' factor also.

HH,
Brian

 

[BarnacleBill]

"Remember, the T2/F75/LTD pose a paradox; the HIGHER the Sens/gain.....the better the audio resolution of targets (esp in masking situations)......in most cases. Yes, there enters the 'human-fatigue' factor also."

Keep in mind that TD detects in soil that is so neutral that it's like air testing. You could tie a blind squirrel to the end of a stick and get clean squeaks in that ground matrix. Go to some place like Culpeper, depth disappears, ID's become erratic and "lock-on" goes out the window. The performance and "best settings" in Sugar Sand look great on paper and present a myopic view of detector performance, but the reality for most individuals is not what TD experiences. Until you've been someplace where you can lay a shiny new U.S. Quarter on the surface and have your metal detector insist that it's an iron target, you haven't lived.

Like most things in life, "it all looks easy from the cheap seats".

HH
BlackSandBill

 

[markg]

"Until you've been someplace where you can lay a shiny new U.S. Quarter on the surface and have your metal detector insist that it's an iron target, you haven't lived."

Been there, done that.

 

[gmanlight]

True but TD still loves the F75 then the LTD over all others .

 

[gmanlight]

Thanks Jim

 

[Cal_Cobra]

"Remember, the T2/F75/LTD pose a paradox; the HIGHER the Sens/gain.....the better the audio resolution of targets (esp in masking situations)......in most cases. Yes, there enters the 'human-fatigue' factor also."

Keep in mind that TD detects in soil that is so neutral that it's like air testing. You could tie a blind squirrel to the end of a stick and get clean squeaks in that ground matrix. Go to some place like Culpeper, depth disappears, ID's become erratic and "lock-on" goes out the window. The performance and "best settings" in Sugar Sand look great on paper and present a myopic view of detector performance, but the reality for most individuals is not what TD experiences. Until you've been someplace where you can lay a shiny new U.S. Quarter on the surface and have your metal detector insist that it's an iron target, you haven't lived.

Like most things in life, "it all looks easy from the cheap seats".

HH
BlackSandBill

That's a good point Bill. Where I detect the fe304 meter is frequently pegged at .3 or 1.0, so that probably explains the sometimes erratic TID and "lock-ons". Throw in a little EMI and the fun really begins

I believe the CZ70 performs nice and quite due to the multifrequency technology which seems to handle high mineralization ground just fine (it performs awesome in thick black sand at the beach, amazing).

Thanks for the sanity check
Brian