this guy doesnt play with gb

[hunter081]

http://youtu.be/um2hGyWI6JE

ive been watching his detector videos for awhile. I feel comfortable enough to say he knows his stuff. Heres my question at the 7:39 mark he states he does not mess with GB at all. He leaves his in factory at 90. Overseas the ground from what ive read is nasty bad. So why here in the U.S. do we talk about tracking in the deus so much or pumping method when this guy "expert in my eyes" in bad ground doesn't even run tracking?

 

[squirrel1]

For starters bad ground is going to cause a loss of depth with any VLF detector. For ground areas that change rapidly from say a few feet to the next, trying to run an "exact" GB setting is virtually impossible. So what do you do. You sure don't lower GB-makes detector noisy. So raise it some instead. Also the GB circuit is different animal on Deus when compared to other detectors. And some of the experts have stated as such, to add they really don't know exactly what's going on with the GB.
Also this reactivity setting of 3 is another thing it seems enables Deus to hunt better on real bad ground. Using this setting with silencer = -1 targets will give high tone, same target but go to reactivity setting 2 targets reads as iron. I'm finding for hunting on bad ground a manual GB setting of between 86-88 seems to work very good. Remember silencer needs to be at a -1 setting. The silencer setting affects depth a great deal.

 

[hunter081]

For starters bad ground is going to cause a loss of depth with any VLF detector. For ground areas that change rapidly from say a few feet to the next, trying to run an "exact" GB setting is virtually impossible. So what do you do. You sure don't lower GB-makes detector noisy. So raise it some instead. Also the GB circuit is different animal on Deus when compared to other detectors. And some of the experts have stated as such, to add they really don't know exactly what's going on with the GB.
Also this reactivity setting of 3 is another thing it seems enables Deus to hunt better on real bad ground. Using this setting with silencer = -1 targets will give high tone, same target but go to reactivity setting 2 targets reads as iron. I'm finding for hunting on bad ground a manual GB setting of between 86-88 seems to work very good. Remember silencer needs to be at a -1 setting. The silencer setting affects depth a great deal.

gotcha. Just thought it was different he doesn't mess with his and produces awesome finds where here in the U.S. a lot of deus users talk about GB

Thanks for your input

 

[Mega]

Garry is a vewry good mate of mine,and yes he certainly has great knowledge of not only the Deus but also most of the top brand in the world including the newer Bulgarian machines.

In that video he is suggesting that for most of the time the pre-set GB will do for most of the ground condition over here in the UK,of course some situations wither side of the pond wont allow the use of the settings,hence the need to need for the ability of changing these setting.

The Deus has been out in the UK for about 5 years and he was possibly the 1st person to use one from the factory and i would stick my neck out and say its the most popular detector by far that you will see being used,the reason i guess is that that not only is the weight a big factor in the winning formula but also by using the controller and experimenting with its setting you can nearly alter the machine for most detecting scenarios,the previos best seller from XP the Gold Max power was also the best seller for many years as well,although that machine was just a tonal machine and did not have a screen but boy did it find stuff.

Gary in his videos tries to give a unbiased view on detectors,he is not out to sell detectors as such he just tries to help folk by helping folks on how to gain the best performance out of a detector and nothing else.Of course some of the setting that he has suggested could possibly only work in the UK,but when you do a video help review on detectors you wont be able to please everybody.

He has a fantastic way of explaining what all the various control do and how they all interact to get the best performance out of a machine,if you look at all the machine on his site that he has done a personal review and also on YouTube you will see what i mean.His knowledge of detector and the way he explains it in laymans language is legendary.

Just thought i would say a few words.

 

[hunter081]

Thank you Mega B. That was a great explination

 

[mtsheron]

I too don't play with GB and leave it at factory set here in clay country of NC. I do use tracking mode now rather than pumping as an experiment to see if that will yield higher finds. Time will tell. Still a tonal machine and my ears just need to hear what it is saying to get the good stuff.

 

[ecoast]

if you use tracking, you're not at the pre-set (90)


I like Gary, participate on his forum, but cannot for the life of me understand why he teaches to 'leave it set @ 90'

Having said that, I am not familiar with their soil, but where I hunt is coke, slag, high mineralization from all the iron mines here and I never have had an issue trying to GB

 

[goodmore]

The Deus tracks out by leaving the detector in the prone position while you dig. It also tracks out if you run over a nail infested area. Almost like it gets confused and tries to track the metal instead of the ground. These two issues result in a noisy detector. Try shaking the coil. If it is noisy the ground balance is off. XP themselves recommend you leave it at 90 for most hunting situations. Stability is easily maintained in my area with a manual ground balance. I have tried pumping and tracking and the only difference I notice is that the Deus remains more stable in manual ground balance than othe setting.

 

[Andy Sabisch]

YouTube has provided a platform for people to post videos on virtually anything and they get the views once they are posted. There are some excellent videos out there but then there are others that are "dead-on" when it comes to say a specific type of hunting in specific conditions but when applied to an area 1,000 or even 100 miles away, the results can be disappointing at best.

I have met a number of "setting of the day" hunters who continually download settings from the forums or YouTube and go out the next day to try them only to switch to something else the following day. Without a solid understanding of what the change does and why it is being made, frustration is often the end result.

As far as ground conditions in the US versus Europe and the UK, I can attest to the fact that they are vastly different due to the history of use, the mineral composition and other factors. Take the infamous ground surrounding Culpepper, VA . . . . drive 50 miles in any direction and the ground is totally different and far easier to hunt in. The same holds true in the Atlanta, GA area . . . red clay that renders many detectors useless at more than an inch or two . . . . if you are familiar with that area, two words sum up the ground - Brushy Mountain

The beauty of the Deus is that you can make adjustments on the fly and see immediate results. In some areas I use Tracking while others I run Manual and in fact drive it negative to press the depth. Does it get "chatty"? Yes, but there is a reason why I do what I do and if it becomes unusable, I can simply make a change with the understanding of what the change is and what the expected result will be.

I have had several people call and ask about GB, Ground Notch and running positive or negative in Manual . . . . after walking them through the difference and having them go out and see the difference, they see how to adjust the GB for their area and for the type of targets they are looking for . . . . unfortunately there is no "magic setting" that works for everyone and for all types of targets.

Gary is extremely knowledgeable about a wide range of detectors and in his areas, has mastered the Deus . . . . but having hunted there, I can say that the conditions are different than what we face here which calls for different settings.

Andy