Understanding Discrimination and Iron Tone Settings

[dgc]

Hi to all. I'm a new XP Deus owner. I'm reasly enjoying this detector.
I would appreciate some help understanding one thing.

As I understand it when a conventional level of discrimination is set the value
Is also carried over into the fiirst multi tone level. The operator can then
choose to hear the discriminated range by selecting an iron volume level
above zero. To silence the discriminated range iron volume
Is set to zero.

My question is how can the detector discriminate and ring out the first level tone
at the same
time? Possibly discrimination is just assignment to the first level tone? If that' is
case, why would the detector lose depth at higher levels of convetional
discrimination? Or does setting iron volume above zero turn discrimination off?
Hope my question can be understood. Thanks in advance for any replies.

 

[CT Todd]

You are understanding how the discrim and iron volume level work with the first tone in a multi tone audio setting. All the brains of the Deus are in the coil. The Deus sees all targets under the coil at any time whether they are in the discrimination range you have set or not. The Deus assigns a number to each target between 1 and 99. Depending on your settings the coil then sends tones to the headphones. It's only true discrimination if you have set the iron volume to zero as you mentioned. Any other sound sent to the headphones is just a reduced volume level based on the iron volume setting. So no discrimination except that you know the reduced volume tone falls within the discrimination setting you have.


If you're worried about discrimination in general you can go without with full tones or try setting your tones so that you don't need it.
Set up your unit for instance as 4 tones a set the first two as the same sound. I E 202 202 450 750. Just put your breaks where you want them. You could have your iron tone all the way to 15 for instance with no discrimination used at all. You could use notch in the same way if you want to hear nothing in the selected range.
The beauty of the Dues is how easy it is to adjust.

 

[dgc]

Thanks Todd.
I think I have a handle on discrimination now. I like
the idea about essentially eliminating discrimination in the first tone level
and assigning the unwanted conductivity range to the 2nd level tone. In that way
there will be no loss in performance due to discrimination and the tone tells
the operator if the target falls in the unwanted range. I also need to try full tones.

 

[martygene]

after 3 years I still have a love/hate relationship with full tones. Some days i can hear everything clearly and other days it just sounds like tons of various tones that don't sound like anything good. all I can say is to start trying it out in relativity trash free areas. That way you may be hearing one tone a time and can start to learn from it. It takes time to know what is happening once you get into more and more trash. But it is a skill to learn.

GL & HH

 

[LTimedigger]

Martygene, I know where your coming from. Last week I was working a small area which was part of an old town site, and I would get a lot of signals in full tones that were simply all over the place and could not be interpreted at all. This site was seeded with iron but had a lot of more modern trash too. I suspect this is the problem because I was still able to pull out 4 old buttons and a couple of old bullets which were pretty clear. We may have two or more pieces of trash lying together which garbles the signal in full tones. This is why even though I always run in full tones, if i'm doing say an old home site which tends to have a preponderance of both iron and modern trash, I will reluctantly stay with full tones but switch to a "high trash" program I have loaded to quite it down a bit even at the risk of losing a little debt.(and my hearing). Your thoughts appreciated.

 

[martygene]

n/t

 

[martygene]

i forget about high trash. thanks for the reminder. i'll give that a try next time i run into this situation.

 

[XP-Man]

I runy deus full tones @ zero disc and love it