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Video of AKA Sorex Pro

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sekypaleo

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Well I am a proud owner of an AKA Sorex Pro and did my first video of it on a short relic hunt. I tried to get good shots of the screen to show the hodograph and TID's but the glare was a big problem. The hodograph is the real deal and seems to retain it's accuracy down pretty deep.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBN-oWMq6dU
 
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Can't say at this point. I have only used it for 3 hunts and 95% of my hunting is for relics. Deepest giood target so far is a 58 caliber minieball at 8".
 
Dimes and pennies down to 10" for me......could it go deeper maybe...but not much. Signum could get an extra inch though but my Sorex would probably max around 10".
 
Maybe you can clarify the semi-automatic search coil adaptation when replacing a search coil of a different size but of same frequency. Manual says press and hold the Function button "with further shut-down of machine"...guessing this is a mistake and it should be pressing and holding the "F" button while powering up...is this correct?
 
Hey Elton, long time.

I picked up the Signum a few weeks ago and have already dug a few 9" and 10" targets (my deepest ever).
The detector is a bit like an E-Trac/CTX in that it just goes deep at the stock settings basically.
A bit like the T2 in that it is a bit sparky but I'd say it is MUCH easier to quiet the Signum down relative to my T2 (memories).
Deepest detector I've run so far, at least in lower to medium (-) mineralization.
Fun detector to use and if you can handle the mixed mode, there is a wealth of information there. (If not, just turn the RT side down to zero on the STL mode - won't do it on the ST side.)

Nice video OP.

Albert
 
sekypaleo said:
Maybe you can clarify the semi-automatic search coil adaptation when replacing a search coil of a different size but of same frequency. Manual says press and hold the Function button "with further shut-down of machine"...guessing this is a mistake and it should be pressing and holding the "F" button while powering up...is this correct?
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You are correct....you hold the F button while turning it on. I did not write the Sorex manual so there is some odd translation there.

Reason you do it like this for a coil of a different size BUT SAME FREQUENCY is that sometimes the auto coil correction circuit will not see enough of a difference between coils of different size but same frequency...sometimes it does sometimes not....but any coil change requires a coil correction procedure. So you just initiate it manual.. Also if you think you need to do it again for any reason use the F button method....some reasons are a drastic change in temps from when it was done originally ......although AK has said that new coils are more temp table and this is not needed as much now. Also if you realized or suspected you did the coil correction procedure near metal and may have caused a problem.
 
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we always get some exaggerated depth finds on dimes... and some may be deeper in certain dirts..but wow 10" is goooooooooooooooooooooooddddddddddddddddddddd !!



Coins sometimes fall down when digging a hole, Coins on edge read deeper most times, we always see more depth than actual depth of find . Something else larger in the hole deeper is the reading, is just some of the reasons of 12, 14 and even a few 15" coin finds LOL

I'm talking dirt finds not beach sands finds.. and I'm talking disc hunting not all metal and not PI machines............ General coin hunting finds ...............
 
Well I am saying that would be about as deep as I have ever been able to detect one...and that was in good soil in the woods. The woods tend to be the easiest. But...I can also say for sure..never dug a dime or penny below 10" with the Sorex or Signum. Now could it have been 9.5".. well sure...so say between 9" and 10" max to be safe. But it wasn't shallower. I don't always measure and actually rarely do but most of last year with the Sorex and Signum I had the camera and took my time digging to find depth...and actually it was a penny.

Now if I sit and think about all I have dug with both machines and think specifically about dug dimes only...mmmmm...can't say a dime I dug below 9". Not backpedling but I was tossing penny and dime in the same bag. I have tested them in a well planted test garden and you get the same depth on both but in the field...mmmm...no dimes last year below 9".

Now...I also have areas near the coast where I barely could hit a dime at 7"-8"...and I know that for sure as I did a video (somewhere) where I dug a nice seated dime and it was a faint iffy coin hit...and it was right in the center of the large plug so it was easy to measure as the soil was still packed in the plug. So it was around 7" and laying pretty flat...and barely got a decent reading. I will say the ground was also bone dry and this is a hay field with some real lousy soil. Whereas the penny above was in the woods in moist soil ( but not soaking)

So..yes soil makes a big difference and ours changes a lot just by leaving a hay field and going in the woods.

When people ask me what to expect on dimes and pennies ( funny that is the most common coins)...obviously I have to disclaim about soil conditions but with that said, unless you have some tough stuff, then..8.5 to 9 inches on a dime and penny should be within reason.....and in good soil with the right coil 10" is possible. But not deeper unless Signum with Turbo on and then maybe 1/2".

I hear people claim dimes at 11- 12 inches but I have never been able to get any detector to even hit on one in my test garden under ideal conditions. I have a dime at 9.5" and I can hit it with both machines pretty consistently but I also have one at 11" inches( both a penny and dime)and never found a machine that can give any kind of repeatable response.
 
I agree with all your saying........... Like I said Man if it hits 9.5 -10" dimes that is awesome !!!

I am very interested in this machine from your honest evaluation .Thanks for the input..Much appreciated.
 
If you notice in my 10" video, that coin is still stuck solid in the side (unless you think I planted it. lol) The thing is, that is a 100% Nickel coin! I'm still shocked it hit nickel like that. I know her better now and will film any deep signals that hit that well. I had just gotten the machine and had no idea about that kind of depth. And 5 minutes later or less, to find the 9" silver coin, just blew me away. (And I love the STL modes soft hits on deeper targets like that.)

On the lower conductors (e.g. zinc coins) they bounce into iron and then hit right, JUST LIKE ON THE E-TRAC (Fe number). That is hard to grasp for new hunters I would think, but the key in a sense is the low intensitiy. when you have appearant depth, all bets are off with the signal and hodograph (within reason). There are intricacies we "understand" but are difficult to communicate.

The 7.5kHz stock coil hits dimes (and silver) VERY well. That 9" quarter sized silver Mark I found would have easily hit at 10", I'm guessing with thing set up optimally, it would go further. My soil is lower moderate in mineralization (I think). I GB at 23-24 or so and often run it negative. Igor suggested for lots more depth to run it -3 to -5 negative! Here is just a perfect example of a strong signal on a deeper dime sized silver coin at 8". I didn't even have the sensitivity opened up. Was running Turbo but I played with the settings before digging. (Don't mean to hijack the thread, but this is interesting. I don't make videos for revenue, no ads, just sharing.) I'm curious what you guys think here, the machine was very stable - I could have run her hotter.

Albert

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X732ZYB8gg[/video]
 
Here is another youtube video about the Sorex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdJbAl1IyZw

How much does this Sorex machines cost? Looks like is is made in the UK.

Robt2300
 
I found the Sorex website on Google.
Appears to be Bulgarian and MONSTER coils
which accounts for the digging of deep targets.

http://www.akadetectors.com/products.php?page=aka-sorex-pro

No complaing if the detector brings home the targets.

Robt2300
 
I have a video on the Sorex hitting a dime and a penny at 9.5" in my test garden.

Now...when i do the test garden ones I try and see if i can swing like I was actually out detecting.....I mean hey it is easy to "find" a 9.5" dime when you already KNOW where it is. Plus my soil in the test garden is not great either..it is moderately mineralized as well as having Feo2 levels....not horrid but this is also not nice sweet loam either....it is just farm field loam slapped on.

Anyway..so what I do is i go out when it is completely dark and see if I can find them in the dark. That way I can't see where the spot is and have to actually sweep blind...hey best method I have found.... and actually my video is shot completely in the dark with the backlight on. I can't see a thing in the video it was pitch black but I easily found both the dime and penny at 9.5".

Now I had also a penny and dime at 7" in the video and they hit hard. Now while I did not show the F75 in the night video it also would hit about the same on the deep dime and penny....and as I have found the depth on the Sorex is basically even with the F75 as long as coils sizes are close.

Like I said nothing hit the 11" dime accept for a little change in the all metal on the Sorex but I would never have dug it in the field...would not have even caused me to check twice.

From my testing and use in the fields this past 16 months...and if I were going to make an honest no BS estimate on max depth under most general soil conditions.....using a dime and/or penny.....then for the Sorex 9"- 9.5" max depth ( excluding extreme soils eitehr good or bad). With the Signum 9.5"-10" in Turbo mode...without Turbo on then same as Sorex. With the Berkut I am currently testing 8.5"to maybe 9" looks like it...however I have frozen ground outside and can't do full testing with the Berkut for another month at least but I know how the other two responded so I am estimating the Berkut for now.
 
That is the stock 9x12...but actually the larger coils lose sensitivity to small coins verses a 10" or 6x10 DD.

You do not have to get one with the large coil either....I like the 10" DD myself and you can get it in 3Khz, 7 Khz or 14Khz. With 7Khz being the common all around frequency. 14Khz gives better response on mid conductors and I can attest to that...also a little bit better on small silver coins but not a whole lot.

I think that is Mikrons website but not sure...I know it is not the AKA website as that is in Russian.
 
That is a great video...and i believe the depth..obviously.

Now the deepest coin I have dug to date with the Sorex was an 1864 Two cent piece at a measured 11.5-12 inches. I took my time digging it as it was very faint iffy signal that kept giving me a high coin VDI with a little iron tone now and the. Now..it was at the max ability of the detector...had it been a millimeter deeper I would would not have dug it. Of course a 2 cent piece is a nice size piece of copper and they seem to hit better than even older large cents...not sure why but they are usually not all corroded up. I was using the large 9x12 coil at 7Khz. Had I been using the 6x10 at 14 Khz I doubt I would have even heard it. So coil and soil makes a difference

Also the place I dug it was again in the woods with light airy soil. this is in the same spot that I have the video of digging the 1790's 2 Sous cache. The soil was pretty mild. Now had this been in a field here along the coast...no way would I have been able to hit it quite that deep...probably would have maxed at 10" due to the lousy conditions.
 
Here is the one video in my Test garden at night. Now my soil in the backyard is from old local colonial farm fields...so it is just like we have in the real field hunting. Actually when they drop the loam usually it has bits of brick and pottery in it. Along with a lot of forged nails and not uncommon if you detect it to find King george coppers in fresh lawns.
Anyway...these are at exact depths as I had spent the time the spring before to bury at exact depths.....measured. Obviously the coins are perfectly flat also..which almost never happens in the real world....so take that into account

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efpA6HjfeWI[/video]
 
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