Warrior Disc

[RLOH]

I am looking to buy a beep and dig detector next spring and was looking at the Warrior as a possibility. I am mainly a coin hunter and after owning many different Tesoros, I like their razor sharp discrimination abilities. I have never owned a European detector and have read that they don't discriminate as finely as the US detectors that I am familiar with. How does the Warrior compare to the Hot Tesoros? I guess Richard is the only guy I know using one, but if anyone with some experience would share their findings, I would love to hear about them.

 

[Sven]

How much discrimination do you use now with your Tesoros?
That's the key question.
If you don't need anymore than small foil disc, you can disc out small thin rings with the DeepTech.
Then you will find the DeepTech units will be an improvement over the Tesoros. The DeepTech units have a
wider area of discrimination adjustment over the iron range.
I use my Vista Gold for coin and jewelry hunting with the Super 6 coil. In schoolyards, picnic grounds, parks.
It works great! After using the Vista Gold, I no longer have any desire to own a Tesoro beep and dig.

Richard has been using and selling Tesoros for the longest time now he can be the one to tell you how the Warrior compares to the Vaq, Cibola and Tejon.

Now if you need a pinpoint button, the Vista Smart might be the way to go for coin hunting.

 

[RLOH]

Sven, most times I set up my Tesoros with the disc just barely below nickel and start "thumbing the disc" to see where the signal breaks up or is gone. Other times, I will set the disc to just accept silver and copper and cherry pick the easy to find coins. I know most people dig most all signals, but I hunt places with way too much modern trash to dig all signals. If I can't do this accurately with a Deep Tech, I probably would not be interested in buying one.

 

[Frank in NH]

I use the Vista Smart for places that do not contain too much trash, other wise use one of my other disc. detectors better suited for hunting in trash. All depends how much you want to dig!


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[Sven]

Probably in your case where you need a higher disc setting, then the Tesoro would be a better match overall for you and me, since we are used to using the Tesoros.
I have gotten used to digging with disc below foil rejection, helps in finding the small gold and Canadian clad coins that would be otherwise discriminated out.
Living in Canada, I found an alternative to the Tesoro beep and dig machines if I need higher discrimination and want to cherry pick. I use a target Id machine, works very nice
along with its two tones. Fisher GoldBug Pro with the 5" round coil for trash trash areas and the 5x10 coil for general coin and jewelry hunting.

If DeepTech ever comes out with a beep and dig machine with higher disc setting for coinshooters in N. America, then that's the time for you to take a good look at the Deeptechs.

 

[Frank in NH]

Sven How do you deal with pulltabs and other junk, just dig it all?

 

[Sven]

Sven How do you deal with pulltabs and other junk, just dig it all?

Rather easy.
It's all in the pinpointing.
Take a look at the picture. This is where I set my two-tone break and is the same spot I leave it at in disc mode.
If the pointer drops below the red into the green, small thin ladies gold rings will be discriminated out. Find that sweet spot on your machine and mark it.
Move the pointer just ahead in the red and you'll eliminate a lot of small foil. You will get all the rest of the buried goodies.

The trick in determine whether its coin or jewelry is during the pinpoint process. If you have already dug a lot of trash you know coins size target audio from the larger junk.
That's a start.
Pinpoint like you would any DD coil without a pinpoint button. Try and center the coil over the target. Stop the coil and pull it backwards off the the target at the point the audio stops, the target is just at the coils tip area.
Here's where the tell tale sign will be found if its junk.
If using disc mode, just before the audio goes silent, if you hear any type of ratty after glo sound. Most of the time it's junk.
If the target audio goes silent from a sharp break off of a high tone---dig.

In all metal two tone mode, the same think happens.
When pinpointing, a high tone will break off with a tiny, quick low tone grunt. If it breaks off with just a high tone--dig.

Note I have my low tone volume turned way back. Loud enough to alert you to iron without driving you batty.

Give the above a try, I use the Super 6 coil for my coin and jewelry hunting.

Pulltabs, well your going to dig them, the ones up here sound like coins. But, if I find the deep ones 5-7" down, I know I will not miss the gold rings. It also lets me know others have missed the tabs and probably left some gold......................

Headphones make a difference, a number of us found that the inexpensive 32ohm Calrad headphones provide just the right audio. No need to buy the $100+ dedicated metal detector headphones.

If you notice in the picture, the green area is the zone that will pick up the very small to tiny gold and nuggets. Where the sticker is marked NG, above this point into the green small chains and nuggets will start to disc out.
Small tiny gold chains and nuggets fall into the iron range. You can confirm this on any target ID screen machine. So if your not willing to dig down into the iron range, forget about Micro jewelry. There's a lot of talk about Micro jewelry hunting, think most people who get hyped up on it and try it give up fast, the small foil, iron trash in most areas will bewilder most hunters even with target ID screen machines.

 

[kaolinwasher]

I just took the Vista gold to my pounded , pulverized bone hill location using the Super 6 working in 2 tone , and i mockingly said if i find some non iron i will be impressed, I came away shocked as i found two non Iron targets , one was a brass rivet for leather , and i just do not know how i missed the thing I have hunted it with many detectors, , and the other target was a lead about the size of a U,S quarter i was running two tone disq at about noon and all the Iron gave high lows or just lows, i found the old cut nails gave the high lows only target that came in high low that was a 22 slug I came away from this nights hunt totally impressed , i could say with confidence the vista Gold is the best trash picker i have used so far . the Vaquero coming in a 2nd place I really like the Expanded disc in its range yes you will dig the pulls . but the rewards may be great . I dug 8 bottle caps yesterday at the park and i knew 7 of the 8 as Iron before digging on was close to a dime and fooled me . I don't regret selling the Tejon . not because it was bad but because this Vista is way better . the Bulgarians really have made a exceptional machine .