Hey all, so I took the Vaquero and another machine I have, the whites eagle spectrum, to a park that has a spot where an old foundation used to be. I didnt know how old it was, but wanted to give it a shot. I used the Vaquero first with the 5.75 concentric and it was still tough to pick up clear signals because of all the trash. I didnt find much with it. When using the eagle spectrum I could tell there were a lot of iron hits that were being DISC'ed out, but I managed to find a Carolus III Spanish reale 6-7 inches down and I think it's dated 1774. I want to use the Vaquero in this spot again because I know it's powerful but I'm not sure if I should use all metal just to dig everything and have great depth, or if I should use the stock coil and not super tune or just try the 5.75 again a different way...I'm not really sure how I should run it in this scenario and would appreciate tips
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When to use or when do you use All Metal on the Vaquero?
- Thread starter DigDugNY
- Start date
Hey Bob
With a coin like that already in your pouch you're asking if you should dig everything?...Come on bud you already know the answer to that.
Oh and btw....Though the graph on the spectrum is a good reference when saying something is iron, you had better understand that
anything below its (I can ID this accurately) because of depth will just like an analog machine bury the ID into Iron and show you that info.
Go by sound...not by the graph. Take a big old plug of dirt out of the hole and then rescan it..if the ID goes above iron..DIG THAT TARGET!
If you can spend time there and it doesn't matter how much you dig.. Go through and get every target you can with as little disc as you can using the stock coil.
It may take you 10 trips there to get as much trash out as possible but believe me it's worth every chunk of crap you remove as each an every trash signal
could ether be a good target that's not a coin...or a piece of trash masking a coin.
Once you have removed as much trash as you can and you're having trouble finding any signals at all..don't immediately switch to all metal but instead
then put hat smaller coil on and go thru yet again. You will find TONS of items that were masked by the stock coil. Spend a few trips with the 5.75 working
the area and once that is done...go to AM and GO SLOW.
Milking a piece of property for all its worth is a process that may take years if done properly but you will look back knowing there's wasn't anything else
you could have done to have covered it better. Then you will look at your massive amount of retrieved from there and smile away.
HH
Gary
With a coin like that already in your pouch you're asking if you should dig everything?...Come on bud you already know the answer to that.
Oh and btw....Though the graph on the spectrum is a good reference when saying something is iron, you had better understand that
anything below its (I can ID this accurately) because of depth will just like an analog machine bury the ID into Iron and show you that info.
Go by sound...not by the graph. Take a big old plug of dirt out of the hole and then rescan it..if the ID goes above iron..DIG THAT TARGET!
If you can spend time there and it doesn't matter how much you dig.. Go through and get every target you can with as little disc as you can using the stock coil.
It may take you 10 trips there to get as much trash out as possible but believe me it's worth every chunk of crap you remove as each an every trash signal
could ether be a good target that's not a coin...or a piece of trash masking a coin.
Once you have removed as much trash as you can and you're having trouble finding any signals at all..don't immediately switch to all metal but instead
then put hat smaller coil on and go thru yet again. You will find TONS of items that were masked by the stock coil. Spend a few trips with the 5.75 working
the area and once that is done...go to AM and GO SLOW.
Milking a piece of property for all its worth is a process that may take years if done properly but you will look back knowing there's wasn't anything else
you could have done to have covered it better. Then you will look at your massive amount of retrieved from there and smile away.
HH
Gary
Well its tough to know if theres a lot of stuff there that might be good or if it was a luck find because the area I'm hunting is now a park but used to be a farm and theres a foundation of where an old shed or house used to be, but im unsure which...the ground is really rocky and its hard to dig down deep. I went and tried to hunt it earlier today after making this post and tried the 5.75 coil and was getting spuradic beeps and it was tough to find clear targets no matter where the Disc was set....i might have to do what you say and use the Stock coil first and then go from there
No truer words could be spoken Nice reply and Post and very good infoGaryF said:Hey Bob
With a coin like that already in your pouch you're asking if you should dig everything?...Come on bud you already know the answer to that.
Oh and btw....Though the graph on the spectrum is a good reference when saying something is iron, you had better understand that
anything below its (I can ID this accurately) because of depth will just like an analog machine bury the ID into Iron and show you that info.
Go by sound...not by the graph. Take a big old plug of dirt out of the hole and then rescan it..if the ID goes above iron..DIG THAT TARGET!
If you can spend time there and it doesn't matter how much you dig.. Go through and get every target you can with as little disc as you can using the stock coil.
It may take you 10 trips there to get as much trash out as possible but believe me it's worth every chunk of crap you remove as each an every trash signal
could ether be a good target that's not a coin...or a piece of trash masking a coin.
Once you have removed as much trash as you can and you're having trouble finding any signals at all..don't immediately switch to all metal but instead
then put hat smaller coil on and go thru yet again. You will find TONS of items that were masked by the stock coil. Spend a few trips with the 5.75 working
the area and once that is done...go to AM and GO SLOW.
Milking a piece of property for all its worth is a process that may take years if done properly but you will look back knowing there's wasn't anything else
you could have done to have covered it better. Then you will look at your massive amount of retrieved from there and smile away.
HH
Gary
wheatymike
Member
In areas like that, I have had luck running my disc really high. (almost wide open). Then I move slow listening for any sounds. If I get a sound I investigate it further from different angles and see if I can get it clearer. Then I turn the disc down all the way and see if it may be two beeps. ( a lower conductive target masking a higher conductive target.) Many times I have found multiple targets in the same hole using this method with my Vaquero.
wheatymike said:In areas like that, I have had luck running my disc really high. (almost wide open). Then I move slow listening for any sounds. If I get a sound I investigate it further from different angles and see if I can get it clearer. Then I turn the disc down all the way and see if it may be two beeps. ( a lower conductive target masking a higher conductive target.) Many times I have found multiple targets in the same hole using this method with my Vaquero.
When you say running the disc wide open do you mean the knob turned all the way down just before clicking into all
Metal or do you mean turning it all the way up to where penny/dime/quarter signals are?
Im still learning my Vaq. Ive been hunting in an area with lots of rusty tin cans. I set the threshold to 1 oclock and little discrimination.. Then I can just push the red button to quickly hear the all metal signal.Rusty cans sound belligerent , better targets are more mellow in the all metal mode.
wheatymike
Member
i mean really high knocking out all but dime copper and quarters.Bobby s said:wheatymike said:In areas like that, I have had luck running my disc really high. (almost wide open). Then I move slow listening for any sounds. If I get a sound I investigate it further from different angles and see if I can get it clearer. Then I turn the disc down all the way and see if it may be two beeps. ( a lower conductive target masking a higher conductive target.) Many times I have found multiple targets in the same hole using this method with my Vaquero.
When you say running the disc wide open do you mean the knob turned all the way down just before clicking into all
Metal or do you mean turning it all the way up to where penny/dime/quarter signals are?
This sounds like some of the areas that I hunt in from time to time; they are very frustrating to hunt. You would like to run low discrimination so as not to miss any gold jewelry but every swing can produce several hits leaving you practically crawling to keep on digging. Times like this can call for some heavy discrimination to check out what you can produce in the coin range but with a find like that, it might just be better to grid small areas and get busy digging everything above a certain level of discrimination. Sounds like some heavy masking going on though with your Vaquero in that area.
Habanero said:This sounds like some of the areas that I hunt in from time to time; they are very frustrating to hunt. You would like to run low discrimination so as not to miss any gold jewelry but every swing can produce several hits leaving you practically crawling to keep on digging. Times like this can call for some heavy discrimination to check out what you can produce in the coin range but with a find like that, it might just be better to grid small areas and get busy digging everything above a certain level of discrimination. Sounds like some heavy masking going on though with your Vaquero in that area.
Yea, its an area I can keep digging so I may just have to do that. Too bad I dont have a map. All i know is that the area was once a farm and I'm detecting an open spot that once had a foundation of something on it. There is a spot where a barn used to be out in the woods, but its way overgrown so I'm covering where I can. I just don't know if there will really be that many more good targets or if i just got lucky....there's so many targets that cant even get picked up even when DISC is nearly all the way down because they are being masked. I'll get a signal, then move my coil over like a foot or so and then i'll pick it up, like it has a delayed response or something.