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Which pinpointer to use with my Explorer?
- Thread starter backlashd
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dewcon4414
Well-known member
Ive had several hand held probes and many went bad or caused feedback when using them. I use an sunray inline and its never given me trouble and you get NO feed back because you switch from the main coil to the probe. They are a little more pricy, but i dare say it will be the last probe you will need to purchase. They are water proof and verturally indistructable. You get about 3 to 4 inches of depth and most of the time those targets close to the surface can be located and dug with less chance of damaging the target or making a big hole. Ive yet to loose an inline proble... cant say that about my handheld ones. You are always putting them down.
Dew
Dew
I'm in the minority on this one.
I tried the uniprobe and it drove my Explorer bonkers but I've head the pistol probe has better adjustments for this...
I now have an X-1 on my detector, and I don't like it as much as Garrett's Pro-Pointer. The Pro-Pointer is all-metal-no-motion and it beeps and vibrates more quickly the closer you get to a target. The "coil" in on the tip of the probe. You can point right to the target in the hole and recover very quickly.
With the X-1 you have to wave it around like a wand to find the target. You sometimes have to pick up hand fulls of dirt and wave it over your hand or put dirt on a towel and wave it there. Also the "coil" is not on the end... it's about an 1" up the shaft so what may sound like a target below the probe is actually up higher in the wall of the hole.
The X-1 makes my detector look cool though
I tried the uniprobe and it drove my Explorer bonkers but I've head the pistol probe has better adjustments for this...
I now have an X-1 on my detector, and I don't like it as much as Garrett's Pro-Pointer. The Pro-Pointer is all-metal-no-motion and it beeps and vibrates more quickly the closer you get to a target. The "coil" in on the tip of the probe. You can point right to the target in the hole and recover very quickly.
With the X-1 you have to wave it around like a wand to find the target. You sometimes have to pick up hand fulls of dirt and wave it over your hand or put dirt on a towel and wave it there. Also the "coil" is not on the end... it's about an 1" up the shaft so what may sound like a target below the probe is actually up higher in the wall of the hole.
The X-1 makes my detector look cool though
Ralph Sun Ray
New member
Shambler,
The windings ARE at the tip of the probe and up the sides for a couple of inches. That is why you can use the side of the probe to spiral up or down the side of the hole for target location if it is not in the bottom. If you push the pinpoint button on the detector the probe then gives you the same non-motion pinpointing that the searchcoil does, except much tighter. You will then pick up all targets as the pinpoint is all metal.
Ralph (Sun Ray)
The windings ARE at the tip of the probe and up the sides for a couple of inches. That is why you can use the side of the probe to spiral up or down the side of the hole for target location if it is not in the bottom. If you push the pinpoint button on the detector the probe then gives you the same non-motion pinpointing that the searchcoil does, except much tighter. You will then pick up all targets as the pinpoint is all metal.
Ralph (Sun Ray)
montanagold
New member
Shambler the pinpoint mode works great, you can tell how close the coin is by the sound. ( gets louder the closer you get ) I use the regular mode to verify that it is a good target then switch to pinpoint to tell me exactly where it is. Works great.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
The only downside to pinpointing with the X-1 is you best switch it off before you go back to the main coil or your ears really get a blast. Also if you leave it on and set it down it does begin to build in volume... again a bit irratating. But its the best ive found for what it does.
Dew
Dew
DirtFlipper
New member
The better question might be - which detector to use with the Sun Ray probe? (but that's easy too!). 
(can't live without one).
(can't live without one).
Johnlightning
New member
NO added weight to your detector. My choice.
Having every probe made, I can say the Sun Ray is the only one I use. I have been very good at leaving the hand helds in a field and walking away. The ID of my targets is extremely important and nothing I have used has approached the Sun Ray's depth. Consider the scenario of an open hole and trying to locate a target. In that hole may be your target and several trash items, without ID on the pointer, you could easily chase a nail, scratch the coin next to it and be at a loss as to how to tell the difference between the two. Let's say you have already recovered your target, with the in line SR pointer, you could check the hole again and see if there are anymore worthwhile targets, maybe there is 4 nails in the hole and because you know they are nails, you move on. With a hand held pointer, without ID, your only choice is to dig all the iron out of the hole or just assume all those signals are trash and move on, which could easily be a huge mistake. I honestly cannot conceive a scenario where anything but an in-line, IDing pointer would not be an incredible advantage compared to any hand held. Should you own other coils, changing from one coil to the next is instantaneously easy due to the SR Probe switch box being on the outside of the upper shaft. All my additional coils are already on additional lower rods, so I just unscrew the current coil from the switch box and screw in the next and off I go. I know as a fact, if I had to run my coil wires all the way up through the lower and upper shafts to change to a different coil every time, I would spend a great deal of my hunting time using a less then perfect size coil for the situation at hand. I don't know how anyone enjoys that.
I agree with digitrich wholeheartedly - and would also add that with a "loose" hand-held probe (i.e. any probe other then the X-1), it's easier to inadvertently leave it at home (I've done this several times). And nothing is worse the detecting without a probe!
The only possible drawback to an X-1 is the added weight. But unless you have a really bad arm/shoulder/back, then this shouldn't be a problem.
SCM
The only possible drawback to an X-1 is the added weight. But unless you have a really bad arm/shoulder/back, then this shouldn't be a problem.
SCM
rich said:
You could always tie a string around your finger so you won't forget (or tie it to your finger with string)
rich said:
One out of 10 holes you have to pull a few nails out. If you've pinpointed correctly with your detector you already have it narrowed down to a few inches.
rich said:
This is the only reason (at the moment) I still have mine on my detector.
I'm confident even with all of these trash scenarios, I can still recover faster with the Pro-pointer. I'll be trying the EXII in pinpoint mode soon though - maybe that changes everything.
At the moment I feel like I'm putting a spell on handfuls of dirt with a fat magic wand.1 out of ten holes.....more like 3 out of four, and it has nothing to do with pinpointing as the detector pin points to the strongest signal which is usually the iron itself, in fact I don't even bother to use pinpoint, x marks the spot and dig. Target is usually dead center, however, sometimes it's on edge and I am off three inches. That happened with my first silver dime 1905 Barber...Don't know if it was an O because I gouged the crap out of the mint mark spot, thanks to the Whites bullseye pointer that lead me to believe the nail in the hole was my target instead of the dime. My Pistol PRO sucks bad...might use it to scratch my butt crack, but definitely not for pin pointing if I have an X-1. ID is EVERYTHING. Shambler, once you get to the SE and above, you can use the X-1 with the machine's VCO pinpointing, makes the whole world spin faster
and I appreciate the responses. It seems the x-1 is the favorite so far. I'm gonna keep an eye out for an XS upper shaft or maybe someone getting rid of a probe/shaft combo. I hate to modify my only upper shaft in case I want to separate them in the future. Anything would be an upgrade from my HF pinpointer.
Thanks and HH,
Backlashd
Thanks and HH,
Backlashd