To those of you that have experience with both the Xterra 705 and the Fisher F75 I'd like your input as to which machine I should get. There will only be one. Its primary use is coins and jewelry in a mid west city/town environment. Not what you would call 'urban'. I 'll be 70 in a few months, with that my search method is slow and meticulous. I don't look like I'm 'cutting hay the old Amish way' when I search. A majority of places I'll hunt will have been well pounded so I need something that will be capable of reaching down beyond 6 inches. My original thought was the flexibility of the 705 with its multiply coil freqs' would be the right way to go. I could use the 3k coil for silver then re-cover the same ground with the high freq coil for gold jewelry. But after much discussion with a couple of dealers that said they've used both the consensus was that the F75 was a deeper machine and it would out perform the 705. For my intended use the F75 was the better way to go. The only craveat was that the F75 was highly sensitive and a bit 'chatty'. while the 705 more stable and perhaps easier to use. Don't know either machine. Have always run analog, never used a digital machine, but its time to up. Need the depth now that all you whippersnappers have toasted the top 6 inches of the ground over the last 20 years..
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Which way to go 705 or F75
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7centsworth
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The X-TERRA works better for me. The f75 may be deeper but way to chattery for everyday hunting. They do really well in the relic field with less trash.
NOTE: 7centsworth wrote and told me that his iPhone had changed the words he thought he had written. He asked that I edit his post to reflect what it was he meant to say. Thanks. HH Randy
NOTE: 7centsworth wrote and told me that his iPhone had changed the words he thought he had written. He asked that I edit his post to reflect what it was he meant to say. Thanks. HH Randy
You're asking this on the X-TERRA forum, so you probably have a good idea as to what the majority of X-TERRA users will tell you. After all, most of us went through the same decision making process that you are going through. And the fact we ended up here should tell you something. Personally....I tried an F-75 when they were first introduced, and found it to be erratic when running variable degrees of discrimination. Seemed the higher I set the discrimination, the noisier it became. Almost as if they had set up the gain to be increased as the discrimination was increased. I also found that it is very susceptible to EMF, RFI and other electrical interference. With that said, they may have resolved some of these issues with later releases. And you may be able to step up to the LTD and have a bit more stable detector. But realize, that comes with a price.
I'm sure you've done your homework and have a decent knowledge of the X-TERRA functionality. But just in case you are wanting more to read before making your decision, I'd invite you to visit our FAQFAQ section in this forum, to learn more about the flexibility of the platform. In addition, I'd invite you to download a FREE copy of an eBook that I wrote, "Understanding Your X-TERRA". It is available from Minelab's website. You can find a link to the FAQFAQ section, as well as a link to my eBook, near the top of the posts in this forum. No matter which one you decide on, from one Midwestern coin-shooter to another, enjoy the hobby. HH Randy
I'm sure you've done your homework and have a decent knowledge of the X-TERRA functionality. But just in case you are wanting more to read before making your decision, I'd invite you to visit our FAQFAQ section in this forum, to learn more about the flexibility of the platform. In addition, I'd invite you to download a FREE copy of an eBook that I wrote, "Understanding Your X-TERRA". It is available from Minelab's website. You can find a link to the FAQFAQ section, as well as a link to my eBook, near the top of the posts in this forum. No matter which one you decide on, from one Midwestern coin-shooter to another, enjoy the hobby. HH Randy
In reading your post, it seems that depth is not the only important feature you are looking for. I have used both units ( I had an F75 LTD) and the F75 ramped up is deeper. But also a lot more audio intensive ( that is, lots of pops, clicks, etc.) due to how it reacts to the ground conditions. You can tame it, but if you get into an area of EMI forget it. I could not hunt with it even on the lowest settings in some places near houses and high tension wires. Also, there are A LOT more settings/options on it so it is not the simpler of the two units. I sold mine after about 2 months since to me it is more of a relic hunter than a coin hunter. It is a very good unit though.
I now have a 705, with several coils, and I plan on keeping this one for a long time. With the 6 inch Digger coil, it's an awesome silver and copper coin hunter. Put a high frequency coil on it and it's a darn good gold jewelry hunter. If you want to hunt the wet, salt sand beaches ( F75 can't do that no where near as well as the 705), put on the 9 inch waterproof 3kHz coil ( being in the mid-West, I doubt you will be scouring the beaches on the coast a lot !). For overall general hunting, the stock 7.5 kHz handles most all conditions well.
The 705 does very well in trashy areas. It is a bit slower, recovery speed wise, than the F75 but its no slouch. It is much easier to set up and program too.
I know this is an X-Terra forum, so there is going to be a biased opinion, but for me, after using both units, the 705 fits better as an overall unit and better as a coin hunter in my opinion.
I now have a 705, with several coils, and I plan on keeping this one for a long time. With the 6 inch Digger coil, it's an awesome silver and copper coin hunter. Put a high frequency coil on it and it's a darn good gold jewelry hunter. If you want to hunt the wet, salt sand beaches ( F75 can't do that no where near as well as the 705), put on the 9 inch waterproof 3kHz coil ( being in the mid-West, I doubt you will be scouring the beaches on the coast a lot !). For overall general hunting, the stock 7.5 kHz handles most all conditions well.
The 705 does very well in trashy areas. It is a bit slower, recovery speed wise, than the F75 but its no slouch. It is much easier to set up and program too.
I know this is an X-Terra forum, so there is going to be a biased opinion, but for me, after using both units, the 705 fits better as an overall unit and better as a coin hunter in my opinion.
I thank you all for your input. Appreciate the links 'digger' and yes, I understand I'm asking a barber if I need a haircut. I kinda did this same question on the Fisher board too. But I am asking for people that have some familiarity with both machines, and while dealers can provide a wealth of info they are tryng to sell a machine. I respect that. So I thought I'd try to get as much info as possible for the real experts, the users. As I stated, the Xterra was my first choice after research and I believe it still is. For the money, I think it provides the logical options I'm looking for. Bart is about 3 hours away and has made me a good price on one so I think I'm about to join the Minelab community. I'll probably be back with question. So thanks again folks. And HAPPY HUNTING!!
rjsupersonic
New member
I had the F75LTD and actually sold it and got the 705. I can't say I didn't like the F75 I just wanted to try something new. The F75 makes more noise and yes in heavy EMI areas it goes nuts. I think it may be slightly deeper than the 705 but not much. I like the 705 and use it for nugget hunting and parks, last time I checked the 705 is at least 300 dollars cheaper, all I can say is that I'm happy with the 705 and am not looking back. I would like to see a head to head comparison.
7centsworth
Well-known member
I did not type worthless trash. I was using my iPhone it must have changed the words I does that sometimes it is suppose to say with less trash . Xterra is an awesome relic machine.
sprchng
Well-known member
I spent the better part of the morning hunting with an 85 year old gal swinging a 705 that has seen many venues--she is very adept with it. I started with 75ltd in ground that GBed at 88 and composed of sod over decomposed granite. Coin and jewelry hunting ---75 had the lower part of foil disced out because this area is relatively clean , Any sensitivity settings above 40 were unpleasant hunting because of the high tone falsing and iron chatter. There's plenty of iron here but isn't that what the discriminator is supposed to eliminate. The achilles heel of the 75 is the discriminator and it showed itself with banners today. When I got tired of digging trash I switched to the e-trac to keep up with .
As an interesting aside , your thread disappeared in the Fisher forum but lives on here. Any idea why?
As an interesting aside , your thread disappeared in the Fisher forum but lives on here. Any idea why?
I have no idea whats going on here. As I mentioned, I did post the same question on the fisher board. Someone emailed me and said that the 'monitor' removed my post and 'buried' it on the 'comparison' board. Wherever that is. I don't know. I guess there are some sensitive people in here. In any event I thought it was apppropriate and curtious to notify a member if a post is moved to another board. I didn't recieve one and I don't see my post on the fisher board. Thanks again folks for your generous inputs. It appears the people swinging those minelabs are pretty good too.
WOW. 'The world is really ending.
7centsworth
Well-known member
Thanks for pointing out my mistake. I pm,d Digger and he took care of it for me. My wife laughed at me when I told her what happened.
I have used the T-2, T-SE, F-75 & F-75SE. And believe it or not, traded or sold a Xterra 70 or 705 for each one of them! I always have went back to the Xterra's because they are so smooth operators. Nothing I have used gets the depth of the 70 or 705 with the 10.5DD coils, hands down!! I will ALWAYS have a Xterra in my arsenal, hope Minelab has the "Next Generation" Xterra in the works, because I'll buy one...