I can remember when I was young, kids would say, "my dad can beat up your dad!" Seems funny now but I still here the same thing with metal detectors now. "my detector can beat your detector!". Well I have owned lot's of detectors over the years but I can honestly say that the Tesoro Cibola is the deepest detector I have ever used. I detect with friends that use Minelabs, Fishers, ect.. and ask them if they mind me checking the signal with mine and I have never missed a signal. What it all comes down to is the question "to dig or not to dig?". No matter what features a detector has it all comes down to digging the target. I, like many others may complain about Tesoro not keeping up with the Jones's but truth be told I wouldn't have half my finds if it were not for Tesoro beep and dig machines. And actually my gold finds were due to the fact that others cherry pick with their "Advanced" detectors. Now with that being said as I get older and my bones creek more everytime I bend down and get up. I find myself wanting to cherry pick some areas. That is the main reason I want a Tesoro with a tone id. But something deeper than the Golden. But untill that day comes I will just say to Tesoro thanks for making great detectors. Other companies are moving ahead with features but at the end of the day will their detector find more than my detector? I can say with total confidence "NO!". And that's why I use a Tesoro.