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1/5/2011

capt.

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Hunted a new park...Oakland park, renamed Martin Luther King Jr. park. Past it up twice cause I was looking for Oakland park... didn't get the memo. A sign in the park said it was founded in 1933. I was excited with the possibility of finding some silver today, and I did, just not what I was expecting. But I ain't complaining!!! I went to what appeared to me to be the older part of the park and spent 5 hours swinging and digging. I can tell anybody who cares to listen that the Gamma 6000 with the 11 inch or 5 inch DD coils can differentiate between bottle caps/screw caps and coins or rings using Monte's EPR method. *Thanks Monte!!!* The only time this has not worked is when there was a piece of foil in the same whole as a quarter I dug. I thought it was trash and was testing myself the day I started trying the technique. Every time I thought it was a trash target it was, with that one exception. The reason I brought this up is because there were a ton of bottle caps of varying types and sizes in the park today. I called them as trash and dug them and was correct almost 100% ( still haven't reached the point of passing them up, scared I am gonna miss a good target, but I am getting better) The one that got me was the ring. I called it for a quarter. Solid signal through the whole EPR method. I knew it was a good target, just not the quarter I thought it was. This ring is old. Even though it is small it is very heavy, and the stone looks like an older setting. I was wearing a big "kool aid" smile when it came out of the ground. Made the day of digging mostly trash worth it by far. The dime and 3 pennies were found in a tot lot with my pioneer 505 and the 4 inch coil on my way out of the park. I couldn't resist stopping and trying to find a dime or quarter. Its a personal thing... I have to have one before I go home. I dug everything from a CB antenna to a unfired 44 magnum bullet today at the park.

Interesting story about the St. Benedicts Medallions. When I passed up the park the first time this morning I saw an old lot off the road that had a foundation but was all over grown with trees and such, where the structure used to be. There was also a no dumping sign. It was obvious this area is used by the neighborhood for fishing and hanging out as one could see the access areas to the little bayou that passed right by, plus the guy throwing the cast net was a dead give away. Stopped and gave it a try. Lots of trash which was to be expected and when several LARGE dogs, a doberman. a rottweiler and a german sheppard, with a broken chain still around his neck, came around the bend, I started entertaining thoughts of leaving. Luckily, they found another pack of dogs to devour, and while they were chasing and fighting, I found the container that held the metals. An old screw top plastic spice container, with a plastic bag stuffed inside. The medallions were in the bag. It was only a few inches under the ground and rang up as a quarter. I guess it could be considered a cache but I will hold out for something better.

Thanks for looking and Happy Hunting to all who still can.

capt.
 
Pretty neat stuff. I am glad you weren't turned into a dog toy. Keep getting out and letting us know how you are doing with your Omega. Where did Monte share his method with you? Sounds like something we all should read.

Don
HH
 
capt. said:
Hunted a new park... A sign in the park said it was founded in 1933. I was excited with the possibility of finding some silver today, and I did, just not what I was expecting. But I ain't complaining!!!
Here are some goals to set: Hunt a new-to-you park, get an idea how old it might be, and hope for something like silver coins or other excitement. :thumbup:


capt. said:
I went to what appeared to me to be the older part of the park and spent 5 hours swinging and digging.
Now you bring up the need for patience to hunt for 5 hours in early January and an unfamiliar site, and trying to pick the older part of the park. :thumbup:


capt. said:
I can tell anybody who cares to listen that the Gamma 6000 with the 11 inch or 5 inch DD coils can differentiate between bottle caps/screw caps and coins or rings using Monte's EPR method. *Thanks Monte!!!*
I figured you would like the Gamma, and the more we learn any detector the better we will do. I do like the elliptical 10" concentric on my Omega better than the round 8" coil for most hunting, but having the round 5" DD for trashier sites and the 11" BiAxial DD for more open areas make the G2 and Omega and Gamma even that more versatile. :thumbup:

Also, I'm glad to hear you're learning how to use the Edge Pass Rejection techniques. It's usually easier to master EPR with a concentric coil, but the Double-D coils can do it also. With the 11", or any DD but especially larger sizes, you do have to have the coil a couple inches off the ground if it is a shallower target, good or bad, to eliminate some of the DD near-proximity issues. Keep at it.



capt. said:
The only time this has not worked is when there was a piece of foil in the same whole as a quarter I dug. I thought it was trash and was testing myself the day I started trying the technique. Every time I thought it was a trash target it was, with that one exception. The reason I brought this up is because there were a ton of bottle caps of varying types and sizes in the park today. I called them as trash and dug them and was correct almost 100% ( still haven't reached the point of passing them up, scared I am gonna miss a good target, but I am getting better)
Yes, foil in with a 25
 
cometguy said:
Keep getting out and letting us know how you are doing with your Omega.
capt. is using a Teknetics Gamma which is an almost Omega. Very similar features and performance with the same Discriminate range, Ground Grab and manual GB, etc. The Omega is just a little simpler to make adjustments and gives a little more visual info. He does seem to be learning and enjoying the Gamma, to be sure.


cometguy said:
Where did Monte share his method with you? Sounds like something we all should read.
I've referred to this for years on many forums but it is listed under Tips & Techniques on our society's website so you can easily download it. There are two items there and EPR info is in Audio Target Classification. It's at ahrps.org. I hope it helps and if you have any questions, shoot me an e-mail to monte@ahrps.org.

Happy Hunting in this new year.

Monte
 
Very nice finds...
Everything is frozen here in New England..
Im eager to get out..:thumbup:
 
Thanks for all the comments guys. Thanks for the follow up on the EPR Monte. I am starting to learn what numbers on the VDI refer to what targets, but because of the overlapping numbers to targets ( nickels, some gold rings, aluminum pencil eraser holders, small bits of can slaw, and the beaver tail part of the old style pulltabs can all ring a solid 55/56) I am still digging a lot of trash in that range. Can't be helped I guess. I will continue to try to improve using your advice Monte.

capt.
 
And you will continue to dig those kinds of trash, capt. regardless of detector. If one doesn't, some gold for sure is going to be missed. HH jim tn
 
Hey guys, I need to amend my comment about differentiating between bottle caps and coins and rings. My statement is true at a sensitivity setting of up to 93. Today I was hunting at 99 and it was iffy at best. I dug 4 bottle caps that I was sure were good targets, so it appears that in the higher range, something within the "system" is hyper sensitive. Don't know if the Omega is the same way but thought someone might be able to use this information and maybe even explain to me what changes in the upper sens setting. I remember reading that from 95 to 99 something is adjusted but I don't have that info at the moment.

capt.
 
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