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13" deep for this ring with the Goldquest SS

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Steve...details of the small ring I found. Thanks for the e-mail !!
This tiny 9kt child's ring (approx 1.5mm x 15mm)was found at no less than 13" with my Goldquest. It's worth very little, but gives an idea what top PI's (such as the Goldquest), can find.
It was found in saturated wet beach sand with the GQ running with a slow SAT and 10uS DELAY. The smallest of threshold change was just noticeable (but still prominent above the background chatter). Subsequent passes further enhanced the signal
It weighs less than a gram.
 
Hi Tony,
It is VERY HARD to tell how deep a target is in wet sand. The sand starts to cave in and the target keeps getting deeper and deeper. Next time you hunt at the beach take that ring and dig a hole 10"(MEASURED)in damp sand. Now see if you can detect it?
Nice Find <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
Matt,
I recently set up a test bed at home in a very large plastic tub. It comprises clean white sand that has been heavily laced with salt, and then just enough water added to effectively saturate the sand.
I guess it's about 18" deep, and probably about 1 square meter in area.
What I do is bury the ring so as to replicate the same "just heard" audio that I encountered when I first dug up the ring. I was able to reproduce the "just heard" audio by placing the ring accurately at a set depth in the tub to see if it can be detected. The measurement was an accurate 13", as there are no waves and sand caving in, to worry about.
I agree totally, depth claims from the actual beach location is almost impossible to gauge, that is why I run these tests on all rings that I find on the beach back in the "test bed".
All the best,
Tony.
 
Do the test at beach. It will be more accurate. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
HH,
Matt
 
....I'll accurately bury (measured) the ring in wet sand...better secure it with some fishing line though.
Generally, where I hunt, the sand is predominantly white, so not too much black sand (if any) to worry about.
Do your beaches in Southern California have much black sand? I know some people in that area say it can be quite bad...this must affect detecting to some degree.
Talk to you soon,
Tony. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
 
I don't know about your scoop but mine digs a hole at least 8"+ deep with one scoop.
Re-burying it at the depth you suggested, and he will be able to detect it. <img src="/metal/html/clap.gif" border=0 width=20 height=30 alt=":clap">
In either case the Goldquest SS is still the most sensitive PI detector out there, period. If it were only 10" it could be found at, it still would be at a greater depth than you could locate it with any other PI unit.
Like I said in the post to you below, I question as to you having a new Goldquest SS, operating the way you claimed. Being that you most likely had a used one, ( because I have no record of selling one to a "Matt", and I am the sole US distributor ), I would suspect the one you had was a used one, not working properly. <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug">
Mr. Bill
 
if i turn back the threshold to totally silent aka stable can still pick a nickle up aT 10 INCHES MENS RINGS AT 15 SMALL THIN RINGS AT 11 BOOST UP THE THRESHOLD WITH A LITTLE NOISE AND IT WILL DO WHAT GOLDQUESTS DO FIND STUFF DEEP WET DRY DOESNT MATTER IVE BEEN MEESING WITH THEM FOR A WHILE ALL STOCK NO MODS I HAVE THE V2 AND I GET NO CHATTER NOTHING IN THE WATER WAVES COMMING IN AND OUT NO RAISE IN THRESHOLD NADA NOTHING VERY VERY STABLE AND IS AT 10 uS I FIND THE SMALLEST STUFF STAPLES PIECES OF IRON BBS SMALL TINY THINGS BUT ALOT OF THE TIME IT JEST GOES THRU THE SCOOP I HAVE TO GET DOWN AND FAN THRU THE SAND TO FIND IT IT REALLY DEEPNDS ON HOW MUCH TRASH AND JUNK IRON IS AT THE BEACH THERE IS ONE BEACH HERE I CANNOT USE THE GQ BECAUS I WOULD WEAR MYSELF OUT DIGGING JUNK OVER ALL ONE AS# KICKING DETECTOR
 
but it is or it seems quieter upon entering and leaving water unless i jak up the threshold but i jest set it at about 11:55 almost 12 oclock seems to run great there not to loud chattery jest a confortable lite hum which i bearly hear fast on the other setting and at 10 uS MATTER OF FACT I HAVENT EVEN CHANGED IT IN QUITE A WHILE (IF IT WORKS DONT FIX IT ) i think it has some upgraded tweaks to it but really not to noticable from the original gq both are exceptional detectors it really depends on beach conditions to much trash its not going to work to to much digging so mostly i use it in wet sand water once and a while ill venture into dry sand if the beaches have been crowed with folks but be prepaired to dig bottle caps bobby pins pull tabs foil etc jest part of the gig its the p[i tradeoff but if there is treasure there youl;ll most likly find it the good stuff alot of the times is from others who couldnt get down that deep but ive had quite a few detectors sov. with a wot was a good detector but it misseed the small gold and chains i used to air test stuff and it wouldnt even pice it up the excal is great machine but the same as the sov. jest water proof the surfmaster pi made way to much noise for me when you put the coil in the watewr in and out chattering lots of noise i lasted about three days with that but also a great detector it went deep not as deep as the gq but a good deep kinda felt like a toy in a way i dont know jest me maybe two knobs no volume control ahh to each his own for me i dont like walking on the beach swinging and swinging i got to be doing something even if it is digging bottle caps so a pi fits me jest fine and i like one thats nice and sesitive to keep be busy digging any way ive been really really confortable with the gq either one larry@ca
 
Larry,
Thanks for the reply.
Your views on the Goldquest and detecting in general are just like mine. I just can't fault the machine as I am happy to dig most targets with it. I'm now able to avoid digging some junk targets with a very high degree of accuracy.
All the best mate,
Tony. <IMG SRC="/metal/html/ausflag.jpg" BORDER=0 width=32 height=17 ALT="au~">
 
Hi Tony
You have developed some technique's that allow a bit of descrimination. Could you decribe them , I am a liitle disheartened with my GQ SS beccaue of having to dig a load of rubish.I think I have been spoilt alittle bit with quality VLF's.
 
Jack,
I'll do my best to answer this question. It's not an easy one to answer as describing sounds, etc is less than ideal in text. There's nothing too technical about it, just something that has developed over considerable hours of use.
Fistly, I'm only really hunting gold/platinum jewellery (rings/chains), so targets that have a large physical signature are often discounted. I'm fortunate that I don't have much iron junk to deal with (except bottle caps). The audio from hair pins, irregular pieces of foil/aluminium and some iron objects will give the usual double blip or "broken" signal and to me just don't have that nice softer/mellower and symetric audio signature. Most iron targets (to me) also have a brash and louder audio. What I look for in a signal is a combination of;
1. Physical target audio "shape". What size target am I dealing with ??
2. How symetric the audio is from different angles.
3. How smooth/mellow the signal is (ie gold).
4. How satisfying the signal is overall.
I know it sounds like "yeah, fine in theory but in the field it all sounds diggable". Well you're right when first starting out, but after many hours digging every target known to mankind, your brain will soon begin to "log" what you have dug up against what sound it initially heard. I always try to guess what I am about to dig up based on what I have heard and I don't always get it right.
I'd also like to say that on some days I will DIG EVERY TARGET regardless of what I think the target may be and even knowing 99% that it is junk. This process allows me to test my theories and to see if I am making correct assumptions during my normal detecting. I would guess that normally, of ALL targets that I hear, I would only physically dig about 70%. I am now confident that the 30% (as checked on days when I dig everything) I don't bother to investigate any further as it has a very high chance of being junk. Having said that, there is still plenty of junk in the 70% that I choose to dig up but that is the limits of what I can discriminate out. I would also say that of the 30% that I choose not to dig, it is impossible for it to be 100% accurate, however, I am happy with the results of my "dig everything" tests.
I also find that certain beaches are limited in what type of junk might be found there. I still dig ALL pulltabs as they signal exactly like gold rings. My main junk item is bottlecaps. These give a larger signal proportional to their size and it becomes larger the more they rust. The signal is symetric but sound larger than rings I have found/tested and the audio is "brash" and not that softer, more pleasing sound (rings,coins). I generally dismiss big objects that often turn out to be large pieces of metal or beer cans, and yes, I may miss the odd watch. If I am still digging past 18" or so, then the chances of it being the typical ring sized object is diminishing all the time. When first starting out, I was constantly digging holes past 2 feet that resulted in a beer can or a steel tent peg
being unearthed. Assuming that the target isn't in the side walls of the hole, I never dig to a depth that exceeds the limits of detection for a typical gold ring/chain.
I hope some of this makes sense to you. It's all about time spent swinging the coil, concentrating by listening to the signal signature (and not just hearing it), "guessing" the target and logging it inside your head, whether you are right or wrong.
All the best,
Tony.
PS How's that Welsh flag going ??
 
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