1st impressions of the Vaquero

[kaolinwasher]

As you know , I just traded my outlaw for a Vaquero, I have never owned a VAQ so wanted to try it , before the bliss went south i had the bliss for deep targets, but wanted something for just hunting the soccer fields, so I got the outlaw , but with the bliss in for repairs over 6 months I decided to get rid of that when it gets back , and needed a replacement, heard some reports of the vaquero being deep so I decided to get the VAQ, well it came in the mail today and i put the small 5.75 concentric on it and I can say with no doubt just the 5.75 is deeper than the 10x 12 on the outlaw no kidding in all metal & disq i can hit a u,s dime at 10" dig gable signal ,and a nickel at 13 no problem shot shell 14" this machine with even the small coil in the woods is going to kick but , haven't even tried the 8x 9 yet this machine may well find me something around the old foundation as the small coil is cursing deep in discriminate, SO WHAT ARE THE DIFFRENCES between the VAQ & the outlaw , well from just my short test I can tell you they are two different machines, the outlaw is hotter on gold in my opinion and has a smooth all metal the vaq loves Iron in its all metal even a paper clip 12" deep and not as easy to tell Iron from not Iron all i can say for sure is the vaq is deeper but the outlaw is a smooth machine in that 1st 6"and is excellent at ignoring Iron & junk both must have tesoro machines will keep you informed as i keep trying it out , Gunnar

 

[JMC]

Great first impressions, they only come once. Interested to see how things progress for you.

 

[BarryL]

I told Ya it would hit a dime at well over 10 inches remember what I asked ya if you ever get ready to you know what!! LOL get some vids on here as soon a you can.

 

[Scanman]

Happy New V Enjoy!

Thanks for the report.

Scanman

 

[hatpin]

Thats a lot deeper than Im getting with the 8x10 coil.

 

[MarkCZ]

I don't think you see any depth difference between the 5.75 and the 8x9, you may in all metal but in normal disc mode my brother and I can't find enough difference in the two with our Tejons to even mention, one just covers a little more ground.

Mark

 

[hatpin]

Is this air testing ?

 

[hatpin]

Air test with 8x10 coil, I only get aboUt 6 inches on a CLAD dime, 7 CLAD quarter and 8 to 9 nickle.

 

[yowow#1]

Air test with 8x10 coil, I only get aboUt 6 inches on a CLAD dime, 7 CLAD quarter and 8 to 9 nickle.

6 inches on a clad dime doesn't seem right. I can get 9 inch repeatable on a air test with the 9x10 concentric and 11 inches repeatable with larger aftermarket coils. jmo but you might want to get your unit or coil checked out. GL

 

[hatpin]

I tried it differently to get a more accurate reading. Laid the detector on a table and could only get about 8 inches super tuned , on a dime. My frequency switch is broken , and will only work in two positions. I guess ill send it in.

 

[razerback408]

I tried it differently to get a more accurate reading. Laid the detector on a table and could only get about 8 inches super tuned , on a dime. My frequency switch is broken , and will only work in two positions. I guess ill send it in.

yes i would send it in

 

[kaolinwasher]

I tried the 8x9 and found little difference, almost the same but the 8x 9 is deeper by maybe 1" in all metal I got out my hot rock and put a nickel under it and in disc with the concentrics they are silent the rock is about 2" thick, this I expected as almost all the detectors could not get the nickel in disc under this rock but hav yet to try the DD coils . now in all metal the rock sounds off like a good target with no coin under it , so i had to set the GB negative until the rock was making very little noise then when I put the nickel under it it sounded off good and it also helped to turn down the threshold . so for this to work in all metal with a concentric is O,K but a DD just may do a lot better only the bliss could get the nickel in disc under that stone other detectors that failed SOV GT, Gold bug. ,, outlaw , compadre, I did some disc testing with foil & a dime under it it worked good but Iron can still mask the dime under the nail. we will have to see how it handle this mineralized sand it may not get any deeper than the outlaw , who knows, I need to get a DD coil for it as well

 

[hatpin]

Kaolin , how are you getting these depths ? Are you supertuning ? What are your settings? are you doing it outside on the ground or inside ? Im disappointed now . My Vaq doesnt even approach your findings and Ive been trying every setting I can think of. Ive had it for two years and have made lots of good finds , now Im thinking I should have 50 % more depth. Im sending it in next week to have the frequency switch replaced. Im also hoping they can tweak it and get the depth youre reporting. I was going to purchase a new 5.75 coil, but if I have an inferior unit I wont be doing that.

A dime for example . I get 6 inches , supertuned 6.75. That is 50 percent less than yours. Earlier I reported 8 inches on a supertuned dime, but that was not a digable signal. I think my audio is bad also. I cant get a low steady hum in all metal. Its a very erratic noise .

 

[kaolinwasher]

Hat pin i am air testing , in both modes yes super tuned, but in ground I know its not going to do that super tuned I have the sensitivity in the red so its not chattering and the threshold at about 3 o'clock . In all metal I have the threshold just buzzing , and in the all metal I am getting a dig gable signal on a small 22 slug at 7" and thats not a signal I would miss, and its faint at 8" thats deep then we have the 22 shell casing 8.5" deep dig gable signal this is in all metal hear is some badd news a common bread tie in all metal 7" deep now hear is the big difference between the Outlaw & the Vaquero i could use the outlaw in threshold all metal and ignore more junk and still get thru that junk and hit a good target than if i was using disc you would not hear that bread tie with the outlaw but a ring 4" under it its coming thru pound and clear small foil at about 2 to 3" you will not hear it but a gold ring under it at 6" pound & clear I now know the power of the outlaw , and i can say give me that for the sports fields hunting in all metal threshold with the threshold knob turned to the 11 0clock position and i can beat a disc machine its only finding the meat & potaoes and ignoring 70% of the small junk targets that outlaw is a great machine , BUT the vaq has depth I can hit a silver chain 1/16" with no clasp not balled up just a string in all metal at 6" deep clear signal two different machines dime in all metal using the 8.5 concentric 9.5" good signal , Mine ball 12" I will retest in disc with results next Gunnar

 

[atomicscott]

Air test with 8x10 coil, I only get aboUt 6 inches on a CLAD dime, 7 CLAD quarter and 8 to 9 nickle.

This was about how my Vaquero was IN GROUND. In AIR it had excellent 'depth', but unfortunately, I hunt in dirt. I still don't understand why some get 8" on a quarter and others get (claim) 13" on a quarter?

 

[dan b]

I had nothing to do this afternoon, so I made this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBA60BD3MrY

Pardon the amature attempt at movie making. I'm no Steven Spielberg!!

The video shows my comparison of the Vaquero, Deleon and the Compadre.

 

[MarkCZ]

Remember "Super Tuned" is a term used in the Discrimination mode, and not all metal! Take a look at the Vaquero manual for using it "Super Tuned"
This setting blows the running threshold to MAX! and so it can't be used in the all metal mode.

Mark

 

[kaolinwasher]

Dan I had to put the pop corn away your video needs to be public,

 

[BillF]

Tried to watch the video, but it comes up as "private". Am I doing something wrong, or is it the forum blocking the video?

 

[BarryL]

Air test with 8x10 coil, I only get aboUt 6 inches on a CLAD dime, 7 CLAD quarter and 8 to 9 nickle.

This was about how my Vaquero was IN GROUND. In AIR it had excellent 'depth', but unfortunately, I hunt in dirt. I still don't understand why some get 8" on a quarter and others get (claim) 13" on a quarter?

When I had this specific detector I ran it in the disc mode 90 % of the time supertuned and that is when I dug a silver dime at well over 9 to 10 inches with it . I did not say it was a loud signal nor a weak signal I did say It hit the dime at that depth it was a solid tone weak but consant tone from every angle of the swing path. I am not going to say that it will do this in Gunners ground because I cant this will be something that he will see what it can do in his ground as for as the Vaqeros I would like to have another one or this one back if its ever available . . Take for example I just had a Compadre Modded to change the coils out . The young man that recently did this Put his 10x12 5pin coil on it and did an airtest outside and the compadre hit the silver quarter at 9 inches with this large coil and no internal adjustments were made except the sens turned up the Ground balnce pot was untouched . will it do it in the ground who knows but I will find out when I get it back next week will try to give it a testrun and try my best to video it and then will have to figure out how to post the vid on here as I am not a computer whiz LOL Back to the Vaq , I will own another one in the near future HH everyone