Thanks, John. Yeah, it's been a while since I have been on here.......no real reason why, just busy.....too many hobbies. Lake Monster (met him from this forum) and I have become good friends and do a considerable amount of dirt fishing together. He is the "scientific" one, I'm more of the "wing it" type. Probably why he finds a lot more good stuff than I do (plus he has one of those double throw down, triple frequency, deep silver, bio-hazardous, lithium ion powered locators).