2 tone ferrous for the SE

[stasys]

thanks I just started new post.I curious what is the different if price is different? thanks again

 

[Chris(SoCenWI)]

The only difference is that Etrac the cursor will bounce to bottom right and then back to the 12 ferrous line. On the older models it could bounce other places in ferrous. And that can tell you something. How good is the bounce on the Etrac? You say if it bounces back up then there is something besides iron. Mike Moutray posted the iron falsing bounce on the original XS years ago. It went from hard upper left to extreme right, but usually a little lower. But certainly not 100%. Difficult to tell iron falsing from iron/higher conductor combo without years of experience. Have you dug enough targets to say this is close to 100% on the Etrac?

I didn't mean for this to get emotional. I'm not saying anyone is running their machine wrong. I just don't understand the logic behind the change.

For example, I drive a 94 Camry. If I bought a new Camry and they changed the speedometer to read in .1 MPH increments, but then changed the tachometer so that any RPM below 10 is accurately shown, but from 10 to 4000 rpm it always says 200 rpm, I would say "Why did they do this?" I liked knowing the RPM. I understand the Ferrous number is not in any units like RPM but it did display a range and that told you something. The new Camry might be faster and get better gas mileage but that isn't because they messed with the tachometer display.

My and others question is "Why, and how is this better?"

The reason I said silly was that this has been debated on the explorer forums from almost the release of the machine. I think the majority of experienced users understand that there is a big price to pay for tight patterns and lots of discrimination. Some of us use ferrous/open screen, others use conductive/minimal iron mask. Don't think there are many that post lots of good finds that hunt with buckets of discrimination.

Your findings indicate that the faster Etrac did not solve this problem, and I believe you. Coin pattern-total null. Open screen-you know something is in the ground. (And again you can only do an open screen in Ferrous.) I feel that the changes Minelab made handicap people searching in Ferrous mode, without gaining anything for anyone using the detector in any other way.

I'm hoping I'm missing something here, but thus far no one has been able to explain what that might be.

Chris.