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2-tone ferrous question...

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dasho

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I certainly see the awesome 2-tone ferrous proof in the pudding, so to speak...
But my question is, what about those "good" targets that are really deep or next to trash or are in bad soil
that have an FE from 18-24 with a steady CO in the coin range?
Don't they just "grunt" with all the rest of the iron signals? (high tone being 1-17?)

I'm trying 2-tone ferrous with an open screen & liking it, but I'm wondering if I might be missing something...
Would 4-tone be better for the task?
There's so much flying around on the screen & audio thudding with all-metal in high trash that a mid-tone might make you zone in...
Am I wrong?
 
I have tried 4 tone and just could not deal with it, I guess it depends on your site and amount of iron. But the places where 2 tone ferrous work are places where your getting like 8-10 targets per swing, I think it is like a machine gun going off in your headphones. You have to go extremely slow or you will get a lot of falsing high tones of the iron. Try 4 tones see how you like it. But for me 2 tones is the best method for me and my ears to decipher
 
I was big on using 4 or multi tones My premis was more information like you say.But in the end it was not a help for two reasons one was I looked at the screen with every high tone anyway and the second is what Goes4ever said its a hole lot in your ears and I'm used to itits a lot going on.I don't think two tone ferrous is for everyone there will be guys for sure that hate it.But it is a good tool in the right spots.When I sold my Explorer and got my Etrac and started useing it I thought thank god pease and quiet then there was all metal two tone ferrous.
 
I think a high tone is a Lot easier to "zone in" on than a mid tone but some people have damaged hearing and lower tones are easier to hear.If you think it is busy with 2 tones in heavy trash you will be over-whelmed with 4 or multi tones I think.
It makes a lot of difference on the individual site as well.A lot of sites will be better worked in conductive 4 tone or multi tone.You just have to experiment and find what works best for you and your specific sites.That is the beauty of the E-Trac,lots of options without being overly complicated.
 
It's a good question and one that many people think of but don't ask!!

We've kinda kicked the arse out of this lately but here goes!!

The theory is that no iron discrimination means no nulling which means no recovery lag which means great target separation.

It speeds things up so close targets dont "blend" their Ferrous numbers. I'm convinced that if a target is Ferrous 12 out of the hole, it's also Ferrous 12 when it's 10 inches deep.
Targets can blend. Like a FE12 and an FE35 piece of iron become FE24 for example.

This programme tries to avoid this by speeding things up to seperate them as fast as possible.

The way around it if you're not sure is 4 tones but like guys, I didn't like it. A bit too warbly for me between the breakpoints.

Me and my ETrac buddy tried to put this to bed and spent a day hunting and digging the low tones in the range FE18 to FE 27........it was all rubbish.
You dig the high tones and won't miss much.

I reckon people miss more by running their machines too hot and unstable in multi tones, open screens and smooth sounds.
 
I have a park that once had a large manufacturing operation run in it and it's PACKED with iron. I'm talking about FULL null for 90% of the 1/2 acre park. I've tried to hunt it a couple times with regular discrim settings and it's absolutely impossible. I gave it a try today with 2-tone ferrous and it made all the difference in the world. I spent maybe half an hour and pulled 2 wheats and a merc. I know this park has old coins but they're hard to find through the iron. 2 tone ferrous is the perfect solution.
 
It seems like someone might have mentioned this before, but it would be cool if you could
choose where the high tone kicks in, i.e. FE 24, or whatever...
 
Hiya Dasho, me and gaz have many conversations about this point. It would be cool to be able to adjust the break point between tones. Having said that as gaz said, we spent a whole day digging all targets. What we found was that any target 18 - 35 was rubbish. I dont know how it would be in the states but over here its not worth digging above 17 fer.
 
ok i am new to the ferrous 2 tones,can you tell me where is your breaking point to dig? or not dig? if its over 18fe you dont dig?
 
Silvereagle - that is what they are implying. FE 2 tone goes high tone FE17 and under and low tone over FE17.
In a farm field or beach situation - dig everything high tone. In a trashy area, you can check your TID for every high tone and then make a decision.
 
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