Cajuncoinhunter
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Dug this 3 piece Shaler in Culpeper VA last year. When I found the top and button , I dug every signal until I found the middle at about 18" down. It was a good find in the hot VA soil. CCH
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3 Piece Shaler Bullet
- Thread starter Cajuncoinhunter
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HanoverDigger
Well-known member
Nice find and good persistence! I dug the middle piece some years ago and hunted my butt off to find the rest...to no avail. That spot is long gone now to development but many bullets, including a few intact Spencers, and a few buttons.
Digger70pa
Well-known member
Nice bullet buddy. I hunt a couple spot that they've been found. I've never found any of the pieces yet.
ironman200081
Active member
Wow! I can picture you digging up every signal to get that middle piece! Definitely one type I would love to dig some day. Alas, I haven't heard of anyone finding them here in Missouri.
Cajuncoinhunter
Moderator
ironman200081 said:
There were "lots" of them dug at this particular spot. Some in pieces, some all together. I do particularly remember one hunter digging a hut and he found 200 complete Shalers (or more) in the hole. Guess it was a box (or crate) of them left behind. I will try and get a picture of it. CCH
quicksilver
New member
That's awesome. Nice job.
doc holiday232
New member
Cajun what detector were you using to find that middle piece at 18"? Thanks.
Cajuncoinhunter
Moderator
Minelab GPX 4800 is what I use in the "hot" soil in VA. I did some serious digging to find it; almost gave up but glad I didn't. CCH.
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calabash digger
Guest
nice find!
Cajuncoinhunter
Moderator
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This bullet aka the Shaler 3 stage bullet was supposed to be more accurate compared to the minie. It was not. I think they were supposed to separate and spin but not sure if it really worked ??? It was eventually considered to be a bad idea. One reason is that it was very heavy (almost 2X) when compared to the regular minie so most Union troops discarded them because they didn't want to have to carry the extra weight. The muzzle velocity of this projectile was also decreased and the "kick" / recoil of the rifle was increased so it was not well liked by the Union soldiers.
Other than that, I would welcome any additional information. I know they are really sought after by CW bullet collectors.
CCH.
This bullet aka the Shaler 3 stage bullet was supposed to be more accurate compared to the minie. It was not. I think they were supposed to separate and spin but not sure if it really worked ??? It was eventually considered to be a bad idea. One reason is that it was very heavy (almost 2X) when compared to the regular minie so most Union troops discarded them because they didn't want to have to carry the extra weight. The muzzle velocity of this projectile was also decreased and the "kick" / recoil of the rifle was increased so it was not well liked by the Union soldiers.
Other than that, I would welcome any additional information. I know they are really sought after by CW bullet collectors.
CCH.
Elton said:
Cajuncoinhunter
Moderator
Here's an "after" picture from the digger who located a couple of hundred (all 3 pieces) Shalers in a pit he dug out in 2016. Now that's a find. I was lucky enough to see them coming out of the ground. Regardless, I was still happy with my 1 Shaler. LOL. CCH
doc holiday232
New member
Cajuncoinhunter said:
Thanks,CCH--continued good luck to you. BTW what is the deepest cannon ball/shell you have found with your 4800? Thanks.
Cajuncoinhunter
Moderator
Doc -
Never found a shell with the GPX. I hunt with the F75 LTD here in Louisiana due to the target ID # / display. I have found parrot shells at 2 and 1/2 down to 3 feet with it. Sounds like a Volkswagon buried under ground. LOL.
Most cannon balls we've found in fields here are just under the surface and haven't been buried that deep. I think they just get rolled around over and over by the discs and plows and don't bury. Just my opinion. Thanks for your comments. CCH
Never found a shell with the GPX. I hunt with the F75 LTD here in Louisiana due to the target ID # / display. I have found parrot shells at 2 and 1/2 down to 3 feet with it. Sounds like a Volkswagon buried under ground. LOL.
Most cannon balls we've found in fields here are just under the surface and haven't been buried that deep. I think they just get rolled around over and over by the discs and plows and don't bury. Just my opinion. Thanks for your comments. CCH
doc holiday232 said:
doc holiday232
New member
Thanks CCH--my interest is cannon projectiles so deeeeep iron is what I'm after.Hunted for years with the Garrett Deep Seeker and now use the TDI Pro---due to some health issues,broken leg and shoulder operation I haven't been able to really hunt with my TDI so I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for the reply and continued good luck to you---always enjoy your posts.