First dig was a nice merc...then nothing old until I was headed back to the truck 4 hrs. later when I got the wheatie...I have had sort of a problem with the screen sticking in both the smartscreen & digital & nothing will change until I get the signal then pull the coil up...also did an air test on the merc back at the truck & noticed that if I swept the coil real slow, that it would only hit at about 6" with the crosshairs in the upper left& wouldn't hit to the right until about 3-4" but when I sweep faster it pops off at over ten...I tried it with both fast on deep off & deep on fast off & both off...It didn't seem to matter...also during hunting I would get the sweet sound of silver or copper & the crosshairs would bounce to the upper left corner as half a crosshair & wouldn't change...I did have the sensitivity cranked full bore & didn't think to try that, but I wasn't having a problem with stability unless I went over an area where a tree had been uprooted & pulled or where digging had occured...any suggestions????
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4 Hour Hunt...1 Merc. 1920s & 1912s wheatie...but possible problems with SE:huh:
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Mike (Virginia Beach)
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I'm starting to wonder if maybe a lot of the problems that folks are having with their SE's are perhaps related to running their sensitivity too high.
"Sensitivity at full bore" = BAD THING
No troubleshooting of any problem is possible in that situation.
As I have said before, I have a test range in my backyard. The coins and bullet I have buried there have been there for 5 or 6 years. The shallowest is about 6 inches and the deepest at 10" to 12". The ground is bad...there's an underground powerline back there and there is the typical construction crap littered around as well as a fair iron content. I can hit all the targets at 18 sensitivity and most of them at 20. At 22 I lose a couple of them completely and at 24 I lose MOST of them. I can't go higher than that.
I have experimented MANY times in the field with the SE as well as with the Explorer II, when I have had deep targets. I will change the sensitivity up and down to see how it affects the quality of the signal. Most of the time running the sensitivity up results in the degrading of the signal. I usually run 20 or 22 at most places. If it's really clean, I go to 24. If the ground is tough I drop to 18. In the Explorer II video they actually suggest that running 16 may be more than enough. They aren't lying. The machine will get some amazing performance at 16 or 18. I feel that at a lot of places, 18 to 20 is optimal. Some of the folks that routinely run between 24 and 28 ought to try dropping it down and see how they like their machines then. Sometimes LESS is MORE.
"Sensitivity at full bore" = BAD THING
No troubleshooting of any problem is possible in that situation.
As I have said before, I have a test range in my backyard. The coins and bullet I have buried there have been there for 5 or 6 years. The shallowest is about 6 inches and the deepest at 10" to 12". The ground is bad...there's an underground powerline back there and there is the typical construction crap littered around as well as a fair iron content. I can hit all the targets at 18 sensitivity and most of them at 20. At 22 I lose a couple of them completely and at 24 I lose MOST of them. I can't go higher than that.
I have experimented MANY times in the field with the SE as well as with the Explorer II, when I have had deep targets. I will change the sensitivity up and down to see how it affects the quality of the signal. Most of the time running the sensitivity up results in the degrading of the signal. I usually run 20 or 22 at most places. If it's really clean, I go to 24. If the ground is tough I drop to 18. In the Explorer II video they actually suggest that running 16 may be more than enough. They aren't lying. The machine will get some amazing performance at 16 or 18. I feel that at a lot of places, 18 to 20 is optimal. Some of the folks that routinely run between 24 and 28 ought to try dropping it down and see how they like their machines then. Sometimes LESS is MORE.
Mike (Virginia Beach)
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Well you would THINK that if it went to 32 then running it at 28 might be a conservative thing to do. But my CZ-70 has settings of 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10. And any experienced CZ hunter will tell you that you get 95% of your max depth at sens 4 with the CZ and if you run it at 6 or higher it will give false coin signals in most areas. It is a rare hunt spot where you can run it higher without falsing. So just because a machine goes up to a certain setting doesn't mean you should necessarily ever go that high. It's nice to know there's some "overhead" there for those rare times when it could come in handy, but you really have to set it for what works in a particular area.
Next time you have a nice 00-27/28/29 target (or an extreme high-right on the Smartcreen if that's your preference) that's at least 6" deep more, try dropping the sens down a notch at a time and re-sweeping it. Do that until you can see that you are definitely losing the target. See where that is. Then raise it up until you see that you have passed the point where it get's BETTER and have started to see that the signal isn't as good and the machine isn't stable. See where THAT happens. Sometimes the results are surprising.
Next time you have a nice 00-27/28/29 target (or an extreme high-right on the Smartcreen if that's your preference) that's at least 6" deep more, try dropping the sens down a notch at a time and re-sweeping it. Do that until you can see that you are definitely losing the target. See where that is. Then raise it up until you see that you have passed the point where it get's BETTER and have started to see that the signal isn't as good and the machine isn't stable. See where THAT happens. Sometimes the results are surprising.
Yes, that's what I'm gonna try today...I'm going to start out with gain at 4, sensitivity 22 & go from there...then try adjusting sens. once I get a good mid depth signal, check swing speeds/recovery/sens, combos VS. readouts Maybe spend the first hour or so just testing.My test garden was a wash, Too much interferance. On the brite side, in the area I've been pulling the silver out, I must have been running way over the top & missing a whole lot...with only a little over two weeks on the EXP. I think I need to take more time trying to learn. I just hope this might clear up the sticky screen thing. I'll let you know how it turns out...hh...tt
raptro5618
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I do not use the smart screen but have seen the numbers hang up at times. I am not sure why but if I raised the probe up for a few second it starts updating again. There is a lot of crap at the site I go to and assume that the processor gets overloaded.
Is this a problem with my SE or something that just happens?
Is this a problem with my SE or something that just happens?
I'm not sure...I finally ended up at 18 for sensitivity & things quieted down considerably & the sticky problem doesn't seem to be nearly as bad & will update most of the time...I'm not even sure yet if it isnt some kind of metal or natural mineral causeing it...I've noticed while getting a good hit that quite often along with either the good silver ting sound & also the high pitch pull tab, there will also be a grunt from the ferrous side....HH...TT
Mike (Virginia Beach)
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Yup...it will. If conditions dictate running it down, I run it dowm. I was at one spot today where 24 was good and another where I needed 18.
Mike (Virginia Beach)
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Hit's very few of the targets in Auto. I think in bad ground the Auto setting drops the sensitivity too much to be effective on the deeper targets. Best bet in that situation is to find the highest setting that will run somewhat stable and go with it. For my test garden that was 18 on the Explorer II and 18 to 20 on the SE. Both got all the targets at those settings. Going to Auto or going to 22/24 or better and most would go away. I know it weird, but it's food for thought. I think a lot of folks are missing a lot of targets by running their Explorers sensitivity too high. Many will argue with that or dismiss that comment but if they haven't done any testing then they ought to. 