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6" Coiltek Coil Finds Gold!

mapper65

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Headed out to a couple of old home sites today with Hotrod53 & our Mom. Weren't sure what we were getting into being that we had a much longer cold spell than we typically do. The first place that we went to I've been eyeing up for the last few months being that I pass it on my way to and from the office. There used to be an old frame house on this property but it was torn down around 10 years ago.

We all started out finding a couple of coins but man it was tough digging. Without my piranha shovel, digging would have been nearly impossible. I went over to an area where there were a bunch of trees and found a clad dime and a penny. Kicking that shovel into the ground typically takes it down 6" but today if you got an inch or so at a time you were lucky. Every time you pried up the ground there was a lot of frozen white crystals in the dirt. It kind of reminded me of trying to scoop hard ice cream out of a container that was kept too cold. Unfortunately in this case it wasn't an option to heat up the shovel under warm water like an ice cream scooper.

I had a nice solid coin reading about three feet before the furthest tree and I was expecting another penny. This area was a little more thawed than some of the other areas on the property and when I pried up the dirt and broke apart the chunks I saw what I was pretty sure was a man's gold wedding ring.

Sure enough it ended up being a 14kt wedding band and based on the hallmark from the manufacturer inside it's from sometime around the early 1950's. It weighs 9 grams and I expect as scrap right now, it's probably worth a little over $150.

I've found gold before with the 6" Coiltek coil but it was a thin 14kt necklace. This is the first gold ring that I've found with that coil. At this site my only notable coin was a 1918 wheat.

We went to another site and I found another wheat, a 1941 Canadian penny a fairly modern penny along with an old cameo pendant that appears to be gold plated. Our Mom also found a wheat at this second site and Hotrod53 found a really cool old toy truck that appears to be from the 40's. Luckily at this second site the digging was a lot easier.
 
WTG on the gold.................Not a common find for you coin hunters, would be like me finding a silver coin (I Wish) instead of my usual jewelry. LOL
 
bob.oz said:
WTG on the gold.................Not a common find for you coin hunters, would be like me finding a silver coin (I Wish) instead of my usual jewelry. LOL

That's true! I'm by no means ungrateful for the find but I would have been more excited pulling up an old silver dollar or something.

The property is sort of oddly shaped at 18' x 80' and when the house was on it, the detectable area or area to lose something would have been pretty small. This was in one of those places that when I found it I said to my Mom and brother, "see that, you never know what you are going to find".
 
Congrats ... Man a gold ring or silver dollar ... tuff call ... love dem coins but Gold is so Pretty ... digging is a lot like that here ... if it doesn't have good southern exposure it's rock hard. but find a good spot that gets sun all day and it's easy digging ... I've been going over all my spots that I have gotten silver with the digger coil using the ETrac and haven't found one silver, great coins and buttons though, but today I hit a spot I had only done before I got the Digger and was pulling up wheats and got my first ETrac silver ... only a 51 Merc but it felt real good
 
surfchunker said:
only a 51 Merc but it felt real good

Silver is silver. Yeah we'd like to always get those old silvers but if we are going by weight a 51 dime pretty much has the same value as an 1892 Barber. Now collectable value that's a little different but most of us aren't selling off our coins.

Have fun!
 
That ring ID'd as a pretty solid 30 in case anyone else using that coil was curious.
 
If that ring ID'ed at 30 it just might be gold plated,,,, I hope not.

I've found a couple in the past that was marked solid gold but turned out to be plated or filled.
 
I've got heavy 10k gold men's rings that ring up 30 and higher. Overall mass is part of what determines which TID is assigned.
 
Mark in S.E. IA said:
If that ring ID'ed at 30 it just might be gold plated,,,, I hope not

No, we're good, it's the real thing. Also, in our soil, plating does not hold up very long.

Old Longhair said:
I've got heavy 10k gold men's rings that ring up 30 and higher. Overall mass is part of what determines which TID is assigned.

Agreed! Overall mass along with the alloys used to markup the difference in gold along with soil content makes up the TID.

I've been dealing with gold since the mid 80's and I agree that there is a lot of stuff marked 14k and it's not. More often than not those items were purchased at a resort or vacation spot. In recent years those items have been discovered due to people selling off personal items because the monetary value of gold has exceeded the sentimental value for many people. A friend of mine that works in the gold business said that a few year back there were times when 20% of what people brought her to cash in turned out to be fake. In every instance she said that the person said they bought the piece on vacation. Of course when you are detecting you don't know where the item was originally purchased. Although a hallmark can also be faked most of the fake stuff never has a hallmark or at least a traceable hallmark.

I did some testing last year for our little detecting group on known gold pieces. It's amazing the difference in TID. Ironically many people post that a gold item that they found rang up a TID of 6. Of the 30 or so pieces that I tested only one item came up a 6 and it was 10k. Most pieces were significantly higher. Hotrod53 and I spent a decent amount of time digging 6's after hearing people were finding jewelry with a TID of 6. After about 100 digs each we have determined in our soil that 99% of the time you will dig a pulltab or some other junk item. In no instance did we dig anything of value, coin or jewelry. I joked with him yesterday saying "maybe I should put this ring back in the ground being that it wasn't a 6 and it's probably just a nice looking pulltab".

I believe that people dig something of value as a 6 but the 6 of us have never dug anything good as a 6. At this point in time I will pass on all 6's and spend my time digging signals I know have a more reliable track record.
 
Mapper, I didn't know if you knew alot about gold rings and that's why I said that. Their is a lot of fake marked ones out there. I've found a real heavy 14k lady's gold band that was a solid 27 and the 2 men's class rings that were in the higher 30's but when ever I find a band that ID's in the uppers 20's and 30's I have it tested.

I'm with you on the low ID numbers. I've dug a lot of ID numbers below #9 and have never found gold but I'm not saying it can't happen, just not in my area. Now if I am in a farm field, a crappy yard, woods, any other area that has bear ground and a beach I dig every number above iron.
 
Both of these ID'd 6.
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Smaller/finer pieces will be lower TID, and larger heavier ones will come in higher. It's why you always hear that gold can come in anywhere....because it does.
 
Mark in S.E. IA said:
Mapper, I didn't know if you knew alot about gold rings and that's why I said that. Their is a lot of fake marked ones out there.

Back when I was just a pup in the mid 80's I worked for the largest retailer of gold and diamonds in the U.S. We used to have people try to and pawn stuff off on us all the time. Once you are around it long enough and I just recently heard the guys on Pawn Stars also say this, you typically need to just hold it in your hand to get 90% of the information that you need. If you're ever taken something to cash in for scrap you'll notice that most of the time they will just look at it with a loop and never test it.

Now if those same skills helped me with IDing the stuff in the ground, I'd be set. Ha ha ha
 
really gold is like any metal ... the bigger the piece the higher it rings in ... it just starts at a lower number than copper and silver
 
That is a nice chunk of gold. It also gives me hope when I see dirt that falls apart in your hands, instead of this frozen stuff we still have. Congrats on the recovery. HH Randy
 
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