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8500 pics?
- Thread starter Hightone
- Start date
Davethejunky
TROLL #2
Doesn't look like much effort was put into the change.
detectingMO
New member
Why's that?
Davethejunky
TROLL #2
Just looks the same is all. After so long you would expect something different.
Davethejunky
TROLL #2
lol, what makes you think I can't? 
......if FTP had announced a Zeta 9000, then I would have felt the same. But the "Omega" 8500 is a step above the 8000, with a few more features depicting the 500 difference. FTP named it right. And until it is tested for performance against the 8000, the 8500 is in league with such units like Garretts Ace 250 and 350 and Whites MXT and MXT Pro.
Davethejunky
TROLL #2
I just see the same detector with added features and things moved around. Now, if it had a whole new layout and design I would call it a new detector. When I traded my Indian Scout for an Indian Chief I made sore there was enough change in the bike to warrant the trade up. Not just a bigger seat, bigger front lamp etc. I wanted a difference in performance as well.
ramairnut
Member
I think that what is on the inside is more important when it comes to metal detectors. If you just change the aesthetics and don't update the software, processors, etc, you are only giving the customer something different to look at. This is great, especially for these guys that don't use their machines much, only keep them clean to trade/sell them 1 month after they buy them, kind of like Harley Davidson owners.
Davethejunky
TROLL #2
LOL I agree about the HD owners. And with your other comments but it seams to be a trend to change software and call it a new product. I'm a programmer and it makes me mad when I have to make a small change in the code on something and it's called "New" software when in actuality all it is, is a new version of that software.
It's just a choice, as you said. If you want an Omega you can use at night, get the 8500. Like the Deep feature? 8500. Or if you like the FeTone Iron Audio, choose the 8500. FTP is offering more options, and many have expressed they wanted them. FTP merely complied. Nothing wrong with that. For those that don't want or need the newer features, keep the 8000. No ones twisting arms, just offering another choice. I never complain about an additional "choice". ie F75 or F75LTD
with the control layout and display color choice.
Some of the controls have different functions, the inner workings have some significant changes and, once in an avid detectorists hand, they just might have enhanced the in-the-filed performance, kind of like the very different performance of the F19 and G2+ over the Gold Bug Pro and G2.
They could have made it bigger, but I'm glad they didn't. They could have made it boxier, but I'm glad they didn't. They might have changed the rod & grip design from the T2 grip, but I am very glad they didn't. I guess they could have chosen some different display housing color scheme, but that won't make it work any more efficiently, so that doesn't matter to me. It does still look just fine, in my opinion.
Monte
Some of the controls have different functions, the inner workings have some significant changes and, once in an avid detectorists hand, they just might have enhanced the in-the-filed performance, kind of like the very different performance of the F19 and G2+ over the Gold Bug Pro and G2.
They could have made it bigger, but I'm glad they didn't. They could have made it boxier, but I'm glad they didn't. They might have changed the rod & grip design from the T2 grip, but I am very glad they didn't. I guess they could have chosen some different display housing color scheme, but that won't make it work any more efficiently, so that doesn't matter to me. It does still look just fine, in my opinion.
Monte
horikindaguy
New member
I bought a G2 in 2011 and it was/is a winner....
May, 2015 bought the G2+, and it looks the same! but it's better and that's 'beyond the new features'. Now I can't put my finger on it but it's
been improved, ie maybe a faster processor, updated SW, whatever, it's great and a much 'sharper' tool.
I had no trouble selling my old G2....(and it had already paid for itself several times over in finds, like 'cash in my pocket' finds which is a measure I can relate to).
I'm expecting enough years have gone by that the 8500 will be 'more' than just some new features...more than the 'sum of the parts' so to speak...
and it's good it 'looks the same', because as such the price just may be the same! think positive folks...they're just keeping the price down for us...
now if they'd just release the damn thing...and let the testers come out with some reviews...my G2+ could have a lower freq buddy....
May, 2015 bought the G2+, and it looks the same! but it's better and that's 'beyond the new features'. Now I can't put my finger on it but it's
been improved, ie maybe a faster processor, updated SW, whatever, it's great and a much 'sharper' tool.
I had no trouble selling my old G2....(and it had already paid for itself several times over in finds, like 'cash in my pocket' finds which is a measure I can relate to).
I'm expecting enough years have gone by that the 8500 will be 'more' than just some new features...more than the 'sum of the parts' so to speak...
and it's good it 'looks the same', because as such the price just may be the same! think positive folks...they're just keeping the price down for us...
now if they'd just release the damn thing...and let the testers come out with some reviews...my G2+ could have a lower freq buddy....
horikindaguy
New member
ramairnut said:
$400 is a great price for the 8K with concentric!, the 6000 with 11" dd is $600 (haha) and no G2+ for whatever reason, pretty screwy....
mrwilburino
Member
Thanks Hightone! Yes, the deep option IS interesting. Hard to tell whether it just means more programmability (which can be a good thing) or if they actually managed to squeeze more depth out of it.
detectingMO
New member
Just an FYI. The latest dealer news letter no longer even mentions the 8500. I'm sure it's coming...eventually but it doesn't seem to be this quarter. So disappointing. 
Dealers now have the promotional clearing out the Omega 8000 pricing you see on Kellyco but don't expect a discount off the new sale price. Almost no margin. It was still cheaper for me to use a $50 off coupon at Kellyco than buy one as a dealer. Wish I had a better update for everyone.
Dealers now have the promotional clearing out the Omega 8000 pricing you see on Kellyco but don't expect a discount off the new sale price. Almost no margin. It was still cheaper for me to use a $50 off coupon at Kellyco than buy one as a dealer. Wish I had a better update for everyone.