A couple of 1350 questions.

[Mick in Dubbo]

When using the short tone feature, are you still able to tell a small piece of can-slaw apart from a more fully rounded out tone of a coin?
Also, if a coin passes under the outer edge of the coil, will the detector still see it as a small target, or is the profiling fooled in these situations? I'm curious about this from a point of view of the accuracy when on the fly, as opposed to checking each target more closely. Simply from a time saving prospective.
Thanks.
Mick Evans.

 

[dahut]

"Short tone feature?" Wazzat? I dont think I have that on mine...
As for you other question, hmmmm - I dunno. I probably don't read your question right, as I'm kinda slow. I just reckon that I oughta dig whatever makes the detector beep.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

G'day Dave.
I was referring to a feature that I've heard about with the 1350's, where you can set the tones up to give a short beep on a small target, a medium length beep on a medium sized target and a long beep on a large target..
The second question is about how much the detector can be thrown off on it's sizing when you are not centred. The GTI's give an incorrect size if you don't have a target properly centred. As the 1350 doesn't have a second receive coil and only has 3 different sizes to worry about, I was wondering if it is effected by not being centred. I imagine that it would if it was right on the edge of the coil it may be off (like the depth meter can be if the target is under the outer edge), but if a target is under the receive coil, then it should be accurate. I'd be interested in what folks find that happens in this situation.
Mick Evans.

 

[bob1350]

I only set the tones a few times, but the type of hunting i do, i hunt a wide range of ground types, so i don't set tones
but with enough practice you can distinguish out whats- what on one tone,and number range
on pin pointing i don't follow the edge hits i always center the coil to get a good reading, then use my hand probe as i dig
After doing this all summer, i can clean a large area fairly quick, and be confidence i didn't miss anything good
and also you never know, dig those strange hits, and sometime you get a nice surprise that makes this hobby so fun
HH
Bob

 

[dahut]

G'day Dave.
I was referring to a feature that I've heard about with the 1350's, where you can set the tones up to give a short beep on a small target, a medium length beep on a medium sized target and a long beep on a large target..
The second question is about how much the detector can be thrown off on it's sizing when you are not centred. The GTI's give an incorrect size if you don't have a target properly centred. As the 1350 doesn't have a second receive coil and only has 3 different sizes to worry about, I was wondering if it is effected by not being centred. I imagine that it would if it was right on the edge of the coil it may be off (like the depth meter can be if the target is under the outer edge), but if a target is under the receive coil, then it should be accurate. I'd be interested in what folks find that happens in this situation.
Mick Evans.

Okay, hold the show here. How do you "set up the tones" to do as you suggest. This is the first I've heard of that.

As for the profiling being off on edge hits, well, yes, I'd say it will be. The profiling feature is time based; that is, the ciruitry measures a repeating signal for a given amount of time during a sweep.
If you have iffy or "edgy" signals, then this time based measurement is bound to be inaccurate.

 

[Uncle Willy]

Not sure I understand your dilemma thoroughly. Why would you have the profiling on while scanning. That's why I asked that it be switchable when I tested the protoype. With tone ID and profiling on together you get no belltone. The tone ID responds specifically to the size of a target. You'll miss more than a few targets "on the fly". Slower is better with the 1350 as it is ultra-sensitive and has too much going on for rapid response and recovery.. The tone ID changes in regard to how you have the detector set.

With tone ID on and profiling off you get low tone for low conductivity, standard tone for medium conductivity, high belltone for high conductivity. With tone ID off and profiling on all tones sound the same but duration varies with the strength of the target signal. A small target produces a quick tone, medium target produces a medium tone, large target produces a long tone.

Bill

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Thanks Bill.
That answers my question. Tone ID is virtually useless to me as all our modern coins stay below the bell tone anyway. So having the profiling on would be of a greater advantage (just as long as you can hear the difference between a very small target and a coin. I assume that you would).
I guess that any half decent tone would require a second look with the coil centred over it, which would make it a faster machine to work with over the 1500.
I'm more curious about it at the moment rather than considering buying one. I bought another detector a couple of months back, but have hardly been out with it. I seem to have a few too many detectors at the moment. I'll play around with them all for a while, then decide which ones to cull or replace. As I like the Ace and the GTI, maybe selling them both and using the 1350 would be a good mix of the 2. I may sell all 3 of my non Garrett units and replace them with a single detector. I seem to only use 2 detectors, so it may be wise to streamline things a bit. It may be hard to let go of the excess detectors though.
Mick Evans.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

It would seem that Bill has covered the bit about how to get the altered audio going in his post Dave. It would seem that it occurs by operating with the profiling on.
Mick Evans.

 

[dahut]

Gee and al this time I thought the tone length/depth indication was functional all the time. Where was my head at?

 

[Uncle Willy]

The 1350 is an excellent coin and jewelry machine and I don't think you would go wrong. It is the exact same machine as the 1500 minus imaging and a second receiver and the 1500 is one of the best coinshooters made ( for U.S. coins ). The profiling feature saves digging a ton of junk.

Bill