A lot of negativity towards the Tesoro company these days. Surely hope they survive these trying times! The Giffords are great people!

[bulletman]

I have seen a lot of negative postings and negative videos lately. Just tired of the severe immature bias against this company. One individual has posted several videos of a particular detector to the digital metered machines. I have asked him to post a video comparing pull tabs, aluminum can slaw against gold rings and other gold items. We'll see is he posts that video. I highly doubt his other machines will be able to discern gold from aluminum. If one of his machines can do that, then, I'll pay a lot of money to get one!!!! Anyway, I'll sell my Minelab CTX over my Tesoros, any day!! My weapon of choice is a simple Cibola with a Cleansweep. My wife and I have retired and have completed several trips to the Gulf. These Tesoros are deadly in the dry sand areas where most jewelry is lost. Of course, I use some other brands of detectors, but they do require a lot of pain to use. Needing shoulder surgery limits my use of some other detectors, especially Minelab. Have another trip in January to Destin Florida. Hope the weather is warm there?

Bulletman

Shalom

 

[slingshot]

All my negativity was wrapped up in the fact that I wanted a full featured Tesoro. After much consideration I have come to the conclusion that all these features would minimize the basic fast response famous of Tesoro. This conclusion is further backed up by my finds after following another detector just used a few days before. The rat-a-tat-tat of a coin spill comes to mind. Other detectors may sound off as a warble or some other confusing signal. Simplicity versus complicated circuitry.

 

[Nauti]

It doesn't matter how good Tesoro's are (i know they are because i used one over here in England).....all that matters these days is technology,even if it doesn't increase your finds rate.Over here it's all about the xp deus,you hardly hear anything about any other machine anymore,i would go as far as saying this machine has even killed off a lot of interest in the forums because few have anything to say about other machines.
If you took 100 detectorists and put a deus in front of them and a tesoro.....how many do you think would choose a tesoro.Tesoro machines still perform brilliantly but most would choose the deus,even though they may never have used either machine......it's just the fact they believe the high tech in the deus will increase their finds rate.
Tesoro machines still pack a big punch,over the course of a seasons detecting they will match anything else in terms of finds rates.......wireless technology does not mean more finds.I'm all for simplicity and relying on experience and instinct rarther than all this high tech nonsense.....if i get an iffy signal i dig it,many with the latest high tech machines miss loads of targets becausevtheyvthinkvtheir highvtech wonder just can't be wrong.

 

[dirt doctor]

n/t

 

[Snap On Man]

It doesn't matter how good Tesoro's are (i know they are because i used one over here in England).....all that matters these days is technology,even if it doesn't increase your finds rate.Over here it's all about the xp deus,you hardly hear anything about any other machine anymore,i would go as far as saying this machine has even killed off a lot of interest in the forums because few have anything to say about other machines.
If you took 100 detectorists and put a deus in front of them and a tesoro.....how many do you think would choose a tesoro.Tesoro machines still perform brilliantly but most would choose the deus,even though they may never have used either machine......it's just the fact they believe the high tech in the deus will increase their finds rate.
Tesoro machines still pack a big punch,over the course of a seasons detecting they will match anything else in terms of finds rates.......wireless technology does not mean more finds.I'm all for simplicity and relying on experience and instinct rarther than all this high tech nonsense.....if i get an iffy signal i dig it,many with the latest high tech machines miss loads of targets becausevtheyvthinkvtheir highvtech wonder just can't be wrong.

What you said is obsoletely the truth. Here in the United States it is the samething. We are a nation of technology junkies always got to have this latest technology. That's the reason Apple just became the first company to hit the trillion dollar mark. Change the wording on the box along with the color to catch the customers attention. All of a sudden it is something new. Let me give you a example of what I say. I was a Snap On Dealer for 20 years here. Someone at Snap On came up with the idea of putting colored handles on screwdrivers and all of a sudden we were selling screwdriver like crazy. Nothing changed, just the color. Technology is the other DRUG! Customers are addicted.

 

[Architex]

Simplicity.......that's why, in parks, I use a Harbor Freight 9.

 

[Mega]

I am from the UK have 4 Tesoro/Laser machines and also a Deus infact i have 2 of them,which machine would i take it would be the Deus all day long,not used the Tesoro/Laser machines for a very long time,and yes i do have a reasonable amount of detector and even a crazy amount of coils,mainly for site specific use,but the Deus is used predominately 95% of the time,but the T2 is running a very close 2nd.

 

[Nauti]

I owned a T2.....great machine.I also own a goldmax power which is easily the equal of the deus my friend owns,just not the same level of useless technical functions.I also used a tesoro and i have a saxon SM 45.Over the course of a detecting season and in real terms ie,cutting the bullcrap,any of these detectors will give me a cracking amount of finds,you just have to learn what to listen for.

 

[Walknstik]

As other posters stated above some people are "tech junkies" and there is certainly nothing wrong with that if it increases your confidence level Tesoro's may not be the deepest but I think they are certainly still contenders in the trashiest of spots where depth is not a concern and good clean discrimination with quick recovery is a plus. Through the years I have found that most of my good finds were made in the trashiest of areas versus open clean ground. Problem is good targets can fall all across the spectrum and as the late Jack Gifford used to state...if you are not digging some trash...chances are you're probably missing some good finds?!

 

[bulletman]

And those techies with GoPros certainly have the "best" equipment, right?? Some have displayed such immature behavior belittling others who own Tesoros and enjoy using them. If they enjoy using the digitals, then more power to their efforts. I enjoy the digitals as well as the beep and digs, however, when I go out, 8 out of 10 times, I''ll pull a beep and dig down from the wall. I own 30 detectors from the most expensive CTX down to a Fisher 1212. I enjoy the 1212 just as much as the CTX. Realizing the techies with GoPros out there will have a fit with that statement. Not everyone drives a Ford, or a Chevy. Some of these youngsters (pups) still don't realize that there are "different strokes for different folks"! Again, until a detector company masters discrimination (especially gold to aluminum), then not much will change. As for me, I'll continue to enjoy this hobby with beep and digs, along with my digital whizbangs. However, I will not post some junk post telling you or "instructing you" what you should detect with!

Bulletman

Shalom

 

[tomose]

Its Sad really that some of the American people find it necessary to find no loyalty towards an American icon such as Tesoro.
I`m a 70 year old UK detectorist and have been detecting nigh on 50 years . As far as I can remember Tesoro have been around . Their detectors have always been robustly made and although not the deepest , they have been consistent in what they do.
I`m using a Fisher F75 which I`ve had a few of since , I had one of the very first ones which came over on British soil , and my "specialist" buddy for it now, is the Tesoro Mojave. I`m not going to go into lengthy reasons why I have these two particular detectors ,but all I can say is ,those in the " know " will know why..
Tesoro have lasted far longer than the east European ones will ever do I`m sure, so all those who are swinging the " Plasticy" East European ones see if you can get a "lifetime" warranty with those if you can .
Please guys SUPPORT YOUR USA made Detectors, or you`ll end up like us Brits with NO home made metal detectors being made on your home soil.

 

[bulletman]

Tesoro is upon hard times as it seems. Now, we have some individuals upon Youtube and the forums who are so willing to "Kick them while they are Down". Brave little men with little experience within this hobby, who are so eager to "instruct" us how to detect and what equipment to use. I say "Bahhhh" as one woman (from Sarajevo) that I was acquainted with used to say! Sometimes, old technology is better than the NEW!! God Bless Ye Merry Men in the U.K.!!!

Bulletman

Shalom

 

[Nauti]

I detect over here in the U K.......i've been lucky enough to have owned many different detectors from many different manufacturers....i'm not brand loyal.
Here are a few points that some may find interesting:
1.Oldest ever coin.....celtic potin found with a Nautilus.
2.Favourite hammered coin.......soldino found with a Nautilus.
3.Best roman coin......found with a tesoro cibola.
4.Best all round detector for land and beach....whites M6.
5.Best beach machine.....whites beach hunter id.
6.Won detectorist of the year at my club many years ago......detector used in that particular season,Whites M6.
7.Rarest ever coins.....two Athelred saxon coins off the same field.......Teknetics T2.
8.Favourite artefact...pewter crotal bell found at depth with tesoro cibola and silver love ring found with the same detector.
Just saying that U S detectors are fabulous machines and maybe the above poster has a valid point.Yes i have found loads of great stuff with other detectors but the majority of my finds have been made with American designs and most with simpler machines.I would love to try a tesoro Tejon when funds allow because that machine still does the job on trashy ancient sites just as good as anything else.

 

[Elton]

Well said Bulletman... it takes years of detecting to become good..let alone an expert.. and I truly believe old technology still works fine.
Sure new tech is nice too..but does it really surpass all older detectors that much.. Location, location plays a big part in detecting..Knowledge of the machine your using.. and getting over the right kind of targets. And wait for it............ Luck plays a big roll in detecting.. 20 people can be in a field and time and time again one person finds most of the goods... and many times a lot of those people detecting have the same machine..

Don't forget the old saying "A New Broom sweeps clean" so someone with a new detector may be paying more attention to targets and digging more because they just aren't so sure whats under the coil.. so digging it all pays off .... As Digger here on the forum says.......... You don't know for sure till you dig the target or something close to those words..


Deeper capable machines can find more things just out of range of some other model or brands..but mostly I think it's masked targets that get missed... so that brings separation recovery in to play... Just my take............ not etched in stone..

 

[slingshot]

Well said Bulletman... it takes years of detecting to become good..let alone an expert.. and I truly believe old technology still works fine.
Sure new tech is nice too..but does it really surpass all older detectors that much.. Location, location plays a big part in detecting..Knowledge of the machine your using.. and getting over the right kind of targets. And wait for it............ Luck plays a big roll in detecting.. 20 people can be in a field and time and time again one person finds most of the goods... and many times a lot of those people detecting have the same machine..

Don't forget the old saying "A New Broom sweeps clean" so someone with a new detector may be paying more attention to targets and digging more because they just aren't so sure whats under the coil.. so digging it all pays off .... As Digger here on the forum says.......... You don't know for sure till you dig the target or something close to those words..


Deeper capable machines can find more things just out of range of some other model or brands..but mostly I think it's masked targets that get missed... so that brings separation recovery in to play... Just my take............ not etched in stone..

So true, Elton. Last year I was dismayed to see a group "invade" my favorite park with the latest technology- literally covering park, ballfield, parking lot. I quickly calmed down as I watched them scanning- literally skipping almost 2 feet per step. The next day I went behind them and found much they had missed.

 

[Nauti]

Elton has made a very valid point and one i have personally noticed...."a new broom sweeps clean".
When ever i have purchased a new detector,enthusiasm and excitment is at a high level and you almost will the detector to do well.Like Elton said,you tend to concentrate more and investigate signals you may not have bothered with before.
This may lead to that famous detecting quote....."this detector has opened up my dead fields again".

 

[Dancer]

Been hunting a saltwater beach area for winter months, (7yrs now) 4 other guys also. Between us there are. Xcals, Ctx, Dual Field, White beach hunter, Mxt, Garrett AT Pro & Infinium, plus couple others. A Nox 600 soon to arrive. Beach open to everyone. After 7 yrs the machines don't hold much edge over the other. Everyone's, a decent hunter, at least for our age. Everyone has scored in the past. The big separation comes when one of us happens to slip into a good hole or area. Seems like someone wakes up thinks about where he's going and bang. Could've been using any of the mentioned machines.
So we believe it's the site, the hunter, the machine in importance.

 

[Beach Bandit]

I'll second that, from down here in the hole...