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ace 250 techniques from anyone who cares to share!!

traviswells

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I just thought since they had the infinium classroom thing going we could kind of have our own for the ace 250.When I got mine I kept going from coin mode to jewelry mode and I started to get frustrated and it seemed like i should have been getting more good tones than I was, then just this past week Istarted in all metal mode and the finds have really started to pick up.I;m still not that good but i am getting better.So for me right now i'm running in all metal mode and only digging the high tones that are repeating from nickle up. Anyone who has time in with the ace 250 please leave us with the best way you have found to use your 250 and what you primarily hunt for i'm sure this would be a great help to use newbies.

Thanks Travis
 
If it is a signal you want to check and it is not coming in very good.Pinpoint and stomp on that area causes a quake and breaks the object loose from dirt.When you swing over a target watch the depth gauge if it jumps from 1 to 2 inches real quick it is usually small object large object will flash from 1 to 5 inches real quick.If you get a bell tone and you know it there and use start to dig and then check and loose the signal dig about another 4 inches it has a tendency to sometimes loose signal after you start to dig.If you were positive there was something there it is there just look deeper.
 
I suggested a :garrett: Ace 250 classroom as well a few days ago, but got shot :argue: out of the water.:starwars:
 
n/t
 
I use to dig only repeatable signals, but started digging more iffy ignals and found out a lot of coins can give you iffy signals depending on the depth, what else may be in the same hole etc.....if get a decent signal you never know what it is till you dig
 
This entire forum with archives is a classroom. This forum was the Garrett Classroom for a year or two until it morphed into the Garrett Forum.

Bill
 
I agree w/John-read the posts on the Ace in this forum and ask the questions. No one that I know of on this forum would "shoot anyone out of the water" but are,in fact, happy to help. It is hard,however, to reply to such a broad topic in one post. I learned by reading all the posts after I got my Ace and BTW, it is a comfortable way to spend the time-I actually look forward to getting on the forum after work. For what it's worth, I've never found it necessary to raise my sensitivity above 4 bars and I hunt tot lots in relic mode, schools in either relic or jewelry mode, and trashy areas in coins mode. I overlap the coil on my sweeps THEN move forward and repeat-after a while it becomes second nature and you will kinda like a duck waddling. The overriding thing to remember: gold and valuable objects have no qualms about appearing all over the ID area. And WELCOME!:cool:
 
G'day Travis.
the Ace is just an awesome machine that will keep allowing you to keep learning new things from it if you want to. It is also so accurate with it's pinpoint, that you can just beep and dig, if that's what you want to do as well. I've got around 260 hours on this machine to date, and it seems to keep giving up new information that I hadn't discovered before. the first 10 hours can be real frustrating, but after that, you gain confidence and those early frustrations will become no more than a distant memory.
The key to learning this machine, as with any other, is to practice at home with various coins rings eta plus a good assortment of common junk items that you will come across. I still practice at home, so that I can be a better hunter. A curious nature is really helpful here and as Charles Garrett says in his books; "each time you go over a target, try and guess what it is each time". This will help you enormously.
As to specific techniques that will help you out in the field. The first tool is your meter. Watch how targets bounce around on it. As coins and rings have a regular shape, they will usually behave in a predictable manner. Put them in the ground vertically as well, as they behave a bit differently when in the ground at different angles. Also watch your depth meter, as this can give you some good clues as to what is going on.
The next and equally powerful tool available to you, is the pinpoint mode. If you spend time messing about with it, you will find this to be a very potent tool to have. It is almost as good as the GTI's imaging ability! If you want to just pinpoint accurately on shallow targets, just use the 12 o'clock position of the inner coil to locate your targets. However, if you want to milk information out of the pinpoint then using the same location for the most part, lift your coil till you have at least 4 inches of separation at least. If you don't then you can't tell if you have a target that is larger than a coin or not.ie coke cans will have a sudden drop off of signal as well. That is one of the key things to listen for on the pinpoint. It's how the signal fades. Once you have around 4 inches of separation, then larger targets become quite easy to figure out from coins. This will be all the more true for US coins, as they tend to be smaller than our Aussie coins. Coins generally have a fairly rapid drop off of signal while targets that are larger, and that includes screw caps, tend to want to hang onto the signal. a coke can at depth will seem to hang onto the signal for quite a while, so while the depth meter will be telling you it is close to the surface, the pinpoint will be telling you the truth. If you have a signal that seems to be very long, turn the coil 90 degrees and hit the pinpoint again to check the target. Unfortunately, if you pick up a second target under the coil while in pinpoint, then it will seem like you are detecting a length of pipe. checking the target like this will tell you what is going on.
There is more that can be said, but this will give you a fair amount of information to absorb for now, so Ihope you enjoy the Ace. it's a top little machine that performs better than some folks realise.
Mick Evans.
 
Good man. Glad you noticed that!!!!!

When I first started useing the Ace people would say if the signal was not repeatable it must be junk. Sometimes it is. Many times it isn't.
I went out this Sunday and hit every iffiy signal and I'd guess eight times out of ten I got a coin. The rest of the time it was a pull tab. Keep in
mind I am talking parks and sports fields.

Something else you may have found is that just because you get a reading of .10 does not mean its a dime or even a penny. Three times I got readings
of .10 and three times I pulled out a quarter.

I had to use my pinpointer several times yesterday. A few times I discovered that my pinpointer webnt off when there was nothing there. I had to lower the sensitivity just like on any full size metal detector. The ground was so meneralized I was getting false signals. I pulled out a hand full of dirt and the pinpointer went off too.

RR
 
I agree RR the display doesn't always tell you what it is, tons of times it will say dime and it ends up being a copper penny. And how about the times it says dime or penny and it is a silver ring? That is a good surprise!
 
I use Jewelry mode and coin mode. I found out that I am missing alot of nickles if I don't dig thud sounds. Bell sounds are what I like, but the " thud" sound is mainly trash. I went over a school playground with my Shadow X2 and found many coins and costume jewelry that I missed with the 250. I still like using the 250 for most of my hunting. Have found small gold with the 250.
 
Sometimes the depth is not entirely accurate.

I'll pinpoint and give the Ace a wiggle. If she beeps like crazy, then it's very close to the surface.

Many times, I brush my pinpointer over the area and it's either sitting just underneath the thatch, or just deep enough in the dirt that I can extract with my fingers.
 
Hi John, great to get your message. How did you get so many Ace's to take the picture.
Great pic by the way.
Cheers Fay
 
Thank you for all that great information, I am getting to understand the ACE better each time I detect. My husband has a White's and he thinks his is better,
but it's me who finds all the good stuff, tho his has a stronger signal than the ACE which seems to sort of echo. Just need more time to go detect.
Cheers Fay.
 
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