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After doing some reading I'm not so sad to have come north......

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R-n-R Magnolia SpringsAla

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From reading looks like I could find 1812 and before relics here in the U.P. of MI. I shur hope so!! Looks like the british and french were all over this area!!! Yeah!!!! Now if I can nail down some camps/traiding posts!! I did locate a map that shows indian villiages so I guess that's a start!! Now if the ground will thaw and the damm snow will go away!!!!!!!!
 
RnR,In the Upper Peninsula it doesn't thaw for a while.Da Yopper is the guy to help you.He's the one with the red flannel hat, coats and pants just like the movie Moon Light in Escanaba.I'm in the lower haif south east, about 35 miles north of Detroit.
 
Go to the GNIS at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/, type historical in the Feature Name box, select Michigan from the State drop down menu, a county from the county drop down menu and then hit Send Query. I did it for one county in Michigan and it pulled up 48 historical sites with maps and gps coordinates for most of them. I've been using the GNIS and the same old Magellan GPS since I got online in January of 1995 to find old sites here and in surrounding areas. It works:).
 
Yes. I've found a lot of older sites to hunt here in northeast MS using the GNIS, including a stagestop and inn site that dates to 1834 that produced around 70 coins total including an 1840 dime that books for $600 and a 1731 reale, unfortunately neither found by me, and several Civil War relics including U.S. beltplate that was found by me. Also lot of old school sites and a couple of old townsites, including one that had a running Civil War battle go through it that gave up a lot of relics, including a Mississippi State Seal Confederate belt plate that was found by a newbie I took on his first detecting trip of any kind. The stuff in the photo, except for several bullets like the ones shown, is what I found there.

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Have you found the coordinates to be accurate? I used google earth to look at some sites around me and am surprised at how many locations there is. Thanks again!
 
Thanks JB!!! Your a weath on MD'ing knowlage and you share!!
 
Ron from Michigan said:
RnR,In the Upper Peninsula it doesn't thaw for a while.Da Yopper is the guy to help you.He's the one with the red flannel hat, coats and pants just like the movie Moon Light in Escanaba.I'm in the lower haif south east, about 35 miles north of Detroit.
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:rofl: Yes dat would be me but you forgot the snowshoes. R-n-R you will have a great time hunting this area and will find many great treasures. Happy hunting pal
 
You sure are a long way from home, if I remember correctly, your name is James? Enjoy the hunting and snow.....ha ha John
 
Brrrrrrrrr!!!!!! I got a great deal on a new HD only got 13 miles on it, :cry: The good part is I'm only 850 miles from Sturgis now(was 2400) so I'll be making that run hopefully this year! Looking forward to the ground not being frozen, lol.
 
area to hunt, If no buried treasure the area was a trading post so something should come up. Any idea how the HB company paid for furs???? I've heard it was bars of silver and gold but that sounds like hogwash. Enlighten me!
 
They paid the Natives with trade items such as beads, trade silver jewelry, tools, kettles, weapons, alcohol, etc. Bars of gold and silver wouldn't be very useful in the bush.

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Yeah thats right but what did Hudson Bay pay the traders with?? for the furs they traded the indians/locals for?
 
During the 17th century, the fur trade was very lucrative for New France. Competition was fierce, and many colonists risked the journey west and north through hostile Iroquois territory from the settlements around Montreal to the pays d'en haut, or "upper country" (the area around the Great Lakes) to seek out Native trappers to trade with. These coureurs de bois were not looked upon favorably by Montreal authorities and royal officials. They disapproved of settlers leaving the developing agricultural areas to seek their fortune trading. The French authorities would rather let the transportation of furs be handled by the natives rather than independent unregulated colonial traders, who were bringing in so many furs that the market was oversupplied. However, after the destruction of the Huron Confederacy by the Iroquois Confederacy, they became a necessity, and their numbers increased greatly. This traffic in furs also undermined Montreal's role as the focal point for the fur trade
 
R-n-R:

If you mentioned what part of the U.P. you are in I must have missed it. Spent 10 yrs in Marquette, 1990 - 2000, metal detecting the last five. Lots of history there. For example, Negaunee was known as the richest town in the world back around the 1906 time period. Lots of iron ore to make steel and the Great Lakes to ship it.

Do your research and you'll be amazed at the sites for metal detecting. People loved to celebrate the holidays by having picnics at the local "grove". When on vacation, trains were the mode of travel. Follow the old tracks and where they pass close to a lake you will probably find an old picnic area and swimming beach. If you find a few virgin sites like these, you'll never be sorry you moved to the U.P.

As far as the Canadian influence on the area, I found two Canadian (c.1870's) large cents in Marquette, Actually, it was in someones front yard who gave me permission to hunt there. I'm thinking you're going to have all the good hunting you can handle.....when the snow melts. HH

Ron
 
Very good reading! I have to assume that the Voyageurs were paid in gold and silver(cause i know I would) BUT prob not until they cashed out after working for awhile. So the "treasure" stories may not be true as the money $$ was held at the city for the Voyageurs return, where it prob was spent as well. :~( Darn it!!!! I coulda used a big pile of silver/gold!!! lol. I know, I'll get a long range locator........ KIDDING GUYS... Thanks for the info.
 
As you already know, minning started booming in the 1830's and many minning towns where popping up all over the place. Your silver and gold is here , not in bars but coins. Native copper & silver can be found just about any where just need to do some home work. Last summer I found 23 foundations and a water tower made of stone out in the woods( a small ghost town) just think of the possibilities.
 
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