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Age of the F70/F75 Detectors

Mud you make me bust out laughing :heh: I'm thinkin' like A***65 you be stirring the pot -- love it. But -- listen up all you clad heads -- about finding the really deep stuff -- I read an old article by TOM DANKOWSKI'S and way back when, he was using a Fisher CZ and using a 10.5" coil hit silver at 14-16" That dispels the formula that the max depth of a coil is the width of its circumference -- don't it -- I mean if you thing he is any kind of authority, and I think everyone that has read him much will have to say, he is some kind of Metal detecting genius in the field. He also has a lot to say about comparing detectors and the factors involved in testing, testing and testing. He goes through all of the variable and considerations, one of them being "bias" of course. There are things to consider in setting up a test to decide which maker is making the bestest macheen -- made my head swim and made me realize the endless comparisons are just that -- endless. So, let's assume all makers of metal detectors are equal in their ability to make a machine to consistently find that silver dime, or half dollar at the same depth -- what would be the factor, then, to consider as a choice of arms? Well, price, would be one, then visual appeal -- even if it is an old beater with a Hemi in it, even those types of sleepers have a beauty in the eyes of some. Next, I think, would be weight, after all, a heavy machine could wear you out before your time. Then a screen that is readable at arms length. Then something with excellent battery life -- who has not hated getting out in the middle of an hunt and see the battery bar drop to one bar? Well, guess what, the Fisher F75 and F70, have all of these qualities -- the battery life is truly unbelievable compared to others. My hunt buddy has a White DFX, a real battle wagon, and hand to hand weight comparison, I feel cheated, after all heavier feels more expensive and means you get more right? Only in the meat market. How they were able to get the F75 and F70 so light weight and balanced with such power is amazing. So, all things being equal in the find department, the F75/70 top the list in easy of use and this translates into more finds, not necessarily deeper than other top of the line machines. Once I understood and trusted the speed of return on the signal, out and back, of the F70 (the one I own), after listening to Mud, I started finding more and more often -- this machine likes to go fast. What is fast? Well, it ain't slow, only when you hit on a target then pinpoint it and dig it. Now, where can I get my hands on a CZ 3d? Oh, and an empty field full of deep silver?
 
Ha! :rofl::rofl: Those F75 rich boys might be able to outspend us, but they sure cant out WRITE us!
Mud
 
Well Revier, you didn't rise to the Mud baiting, but you did the Jim cast out . Look how this is turning out? In this corner we have the Heavy weight F75 and the other corner we have the Light weight F70 :starwars:. I happen to swing the F70, never had the opor to swing the F75 but while research the market for an upgrade from my F2 I looked hard at the F75 ltd and man I was slobbering all over myself, but the price -- I tried really, really hard to justify the gold it would take to buy it. After a lot of crying and some begging, she still said NO! If you know what I mean. Then, sulking off with pouty lip I cruise about and saw the F70, how similar it looked, a real cutie, and I realized, after a couple of hours of more research, I found I was falling in love all over again. Fishing around for a price, I found one -- not as good as you got Revier, but under $600 and with the 11" DD coil. I go to mama again and praise her for being so frugal -- she gave me a thoughtful, loving pat on the cheek, then I told her I had found this other love and at nearly half the price. She gave me pity permission and like a real man I ordered this cute little trick and 30+ rings later (13 months) and I plead the 5th on the rest, I am still thanking the little lady for letting me take on another love. Is the F75 better? It is definitely a premium detector but when people ask what I paid for my F70 and I tell them they kinda cough a little but they don't roll their eyes back into their heads and nearly pass out. What do I care anyway, if I would have come up this the nerve I would be swinging the F75. Not sorry, not sorry at all, my finds with the F70 have consistently turned up more coin than my hunt buddy with the DFX ($1200) that he felt there must be something wrong with his coil so he bought a new coil ($200+).

Now we know -- the F70 came on the scene something in 2008 and the F75 was announce 2006 -- One thing is obvious and admitted by the maker of the F70, it is based off of the F75 and after the F75 had the bugs worked out. Apparently the F75 is named in honor of Fisher 75th ann. Hum, don't think the F70 was for a 70th Ann.? I think the F70 naming was just to point out it was not an upgrade to the F75 but a sister, bother, stepchild of sorts I guess? :inlove:
 
Mud, Mud, what are you doing? Talk about fanning the flames -- I get your humor, my friend, my guru :please: -- I hope those fellow Fisher friend do too. Everyone, I am outing Mudpuppy -- he is kidding -- not speaking for you Mud but somebody has to save you from being burned -- oh, wait, you love it don't cha. Mud and Revier set me straight early on in my pursuit of the unknown and between these two you could not go wrong listening (closely) what they say. There are a couple of other guys too, Elton, and Kieth and others but I would have to say that Mud is my mentor, even though he might deny it, still -- cheers mud :cheers:
 
Well I certainly enjoy the friendly conversation between the two groups, it's a real hoot. I will say this I have learned alot from everyone here, and we do have some real experts in the field. I can also tell we all haven't been out in a while, and don't have anything to spend our energy on, come on warmer weather lol.
 
Oh, you be so correct. You see, if B S was money, you F70 swingers would all be gazillionair's. But keep on dreaming. HH jim tn
 
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Phew! I was afraid that Mud had baited me into getting banned and I was watching for my ban notice. O.K., it seems to be all settled anyway, so lets do get back on track. HH jim tn
 
Haaa!:rofl::cry: :rofl:

OK..What was the topic again? Oh yeah!..Yep those F series septegenarians 70 & 75 sure are the cats pajamas!...:thumbup:
Mud
 
jim tn said:
Oh, you be so correct. You see, if B S was money, you F70 swingers would all be gazillionair's. jim tn

From your mouth to god's ear, Jim. :surrender: :lol:

Man, as fun as all this back and forth is I sure wish it would get warmer and the ground would unfreeze.
So many great things waiting to be dug by all of us...no matter what we swing.
 
Aman, bro! 15 here right now. Woods not frozen, but will let it warm up to 20 or so before venturing out. Keep it going REVIER, you are on a nice roll with the 70. HH jim tn
 
On topic.., yes, I agree completely.., F series detectors are the cats pajamas.
 
jim tn said:
Oh, you be so correct. You see, if B S was money, you F70 swingers would all be gazillionair's. But keep on dreaming. HH jim tn

Ho, ho, Jim you are a hoot -- made me laugh -- you be near good as Mud in that department. Oh, wait, I diid pay for my F70 in 8 months? Hum, how long did it take some others to pay for their machines? All it takes is one of a kind finds, like the guy that found that $4500 1880 ring, but I'm talking about over the counter, run of the mile pay days, you know, one clad at a time, with a few silver rings, nothing over the top finds? Mine is paid for and on account of this the little woman give me permission to invest in extra coils :heh:

Okay, F75 owners, let's hear it -- gazillionairs -- how much is a gazillion, any way, so far I got it figured to be about $600 in clad, would that be correct?
 
Elton is right -- back on topic -- after all Mud accused me of starting all this -- but I did not, but I am the originator of the topic -- so, there :clsoedeyes:
Apparently Don J is not going to chime in and take up any braggin' rights for the creation of the F70 -- "lose lips sink ships", as the Navy motto goes -- I read once, in one of his letters to Q&A that he did not hunt much but when he did he preferred the Tesoro Vaquero ????? Personally if I was headed that direction I would have stayed with my F2, not wait, I would have stayed with my Little Bounty Hunter, with VID Screen. :nopity:
 
Well, about a month after I got the 70 heres what I found..early am hunting....it was a 6mm figaro 14k 32" long with this anchor on it, with a diamond, ruby, and emerald for the running lights...I figured a guy would find a couple a these a week...thats my Wifes hand in the picture, wearing that little silver ring I found the day before, and I havnt seen either of those two since!:rofl: Still got the Wife, trying to get a little smarter with good finds and hold back, but not really, cant help it...must be some sort of deep brain primal thing to show her the gold?:shrug: One good thing though, she sure didnt mind me going out detecting after that! And, She has no interest in clad, which I get to spend on beer and smokes! :thumbup: all it takes for me to have free range is a great big hunk of gold every so often, and the 70 coughs it up in general clad hunting, so its a win-win for all.. ...
Mud
 
I have an F75 standard model purchased just over 3 years ago......this was my first detector. In spite of being told that this was "too much" detector to begin the hobby with, I bought it anyway. Personally, I found it very easy to set up and use and very intuitive. In the past 3 years I have found many fine things (maybe not as much as Mud and many others), in fact, enough to pay for the detector within the first year of use. I didn't buy it with the expectations of it paying for itself, I just got it for the exercise and fun. A few months ago, I got a Minelab CTX3030 (hush my mouf, wrong forum, I know) and it, too, is a fine machine with a lot of bells and whistles. It not only costs a lot more, but, it has a much greater learning curve. I am just now getting used to it and beginning to feel comfortable and confident using it.

My point for saying all this is, it doesn't matter what machine you are using (unless you are making a living out of using it), the best machine for you is the one you can afford, learn to use to its' full potential and most of all, have fun doing so! For most of us, this is a 'hobby', not a profession. Therefore, if you are happy with the machine you are using.....that is the right machine for you. It all boils down to having fun and, then, maybe finding something once in a while that simply knocks your socks off.

Wishing everyone a "knock your socks off" moment.........
 
Good comment Roland -- the remark about being told that was too much machine for a starter advice, at least from me, is not so much the learning curve but acknowledging that a lot of people don't stay with it long and that is a lot of money to find out you don't like the hobby as much as you first thought. Kinda like Hot tubs, everyone want one and once they have one seldom use it. So, the prudent thing is to start with a low end model, less money to find out if you can stick with it or not. In your case it worked out :clapping: Still, the advice to start with what some call a starter machine is still valid, besides, the plus to this, is if you decided this hobby is great and fun, then when you upgrade to something like the F75 you have a loaner, or backup machine, or, as in my case, one your wife can use, or anyone interested, or sell it on ebay. By starter machine, however, we are not talking about some off brand cheapie but something like or equivalent to the Fisher F2 and F4. By the way Roland, what is the weight and the battery life compared to your F75 - just curious.
 
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