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An Open Letter to Detectorists, Dealers and Manufacturers...

Muddyshoes

New member
*Note* - Posted originally in General forum, but you Garrett folks are my "homies," so I wanted to share it here as well... please forgive the repost.

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As a metal detectorist, I've been involved in the hobby, off and on, since about 1974 or so, right about the time when some seriously stupid people thought it was a good idea to take heavy construction equipment into national parks to dig up battlefields, resulting in the first of a more serious implementation of laws and regulations against treasure hunters. This included people with metal detectors.

Over the past few decades, I've watched as a constant influx of new people to the hobby has culminated with more and more restrictions being placed on our parks and properties regarding metal detecting. There is no question that a good number of these restrictions were the result of people displaying poor judgment with the places they chose to search, the methods they used to recover their targets, and their unwillingness to leave the area in the condition in which they found it. Over time, people took notice, and the actions taken have served to diminish our access to great hunting places considerably.

I spent some time last night reviewing threads in these forums that deal with local, state and national laws specifically associated with metal detecting. I have to say, it's starting to look grim, especially considering the laws and regulations that have been enacted.

In Orange County, Florida, where I live, you need a permit to use a metal detector in a county park. No problem, you might think, but here are some of the requirements:

1. You must fill out an application for each park you want to visit and if you get a permit, it's only good for one year.
2. You can only use a metal detector... no digging tools.
3. Holes, that you must presumably dig with your hands, can only be 6 inches deep.
4. You must show everything you find to the park ranger for them to determine if it is an artifact or relic.
5. Whatever you find is presumed to be an artifact or relic unless it's decided otherwise.
6. An object 50 years or older, say a "wheatie" penny can be considered an artifact.
7. You must carry $500,000 liability insurance and assign the park a payee in case of some accident

In State Parks in Florida:

1. Only parks that border the ocean may be hunted in.
2. You may only hunt the area from the top of the dune to the high water line
3. Searching in water is forbidden. No rivers, no ocean beds, no lake beds within state parks
4. Parks at or near historical shipwrecks or where commercial treasure hunters have "dibs" are forbidden
5. See numbers 4-6 above

And on and on.

So we are slowly losing access to places all around us, but where does the cause and responsibility lie? Is it ultimately because of us? When we post pictures of our finds here in the forums, doesn't it get your heart racing to go out and hunt? Even after all these years, when I see a small pile of jewelry or silver coins that someone found, it makes me want to get up, grab my box and start searching, even though I know what to expect when I go out there, and that the likelihood of my finding what someone just posted a picture of will be slim to none in most cases.

But what about the person new to the hobby... perhaps someone feeling the strains of the economy like everyone else who sees the pictures in these forums and reads books or magazines like the Garrett Searcher which displays endless photos of silver and gold, antiques and artifacts and other curiosities found with the detector? How many people are buying detectors now hoping to find that loot that we display pictures of every day thinking that every park is littered with gold rings and silver coins which they'll find also, if they just dig enough? We help increase the number of people every day with whom we compete when we post pics of our finds, as well as the number of desperate, non-caring people who trespass, who dig holes without filling them in, who destroy property, and who couldn't care less about the rest of us.

What about the manufacturers? Most of them include the metal detecting code of conduct in their manuals and may briefly mention the importance of filling in their holes. But is that enough? How many of them have videos that explain safe and responsible ways of recovering targets, how to fill in holes, how to dig, how and when to ask permission, basic common law with regard to private property, etc? Companies like Garrett, White, Minelab, Fisher, Bounty Hunter, etc., have the resources and talent to produce a companion DVD to release with their detectors to teach people how to be responsible, and WHY it is important to be so. Maybe it's time.

And what about the dealers? How many will be happy to sell you a detector without taking any time to explain common things people new to the hobby need to know? Sure they'll provide great service, because most of them love the hobby and realize it's in their best interest to do so. But if you're going to give away a bunch of goodies when someone buys a new metal detector, then why not provide some kind of training or again, an instructional DVD of some kind on how to be a responsible detector owner? And I do realize that some dealers do this.. but why not all? As a dealer, you are the front line in dealing with people. You are in the best position to set the expectations of what the beginning detectorist will deal with. And you are also in the best position to instill a sense of responsibility in your customers. And while it's true, a large percentage of people won't bother to listen to this advice, a good amount of people will.

There is a 150 year old city park just blocks from where I live in Orlando. One of the city founders used to have a huge mansion on the edge of the lake in the middle of that park 100 years ago. The park has been used for county fairs, festivals and events and even public swimming over the years. But I cannot go hunt there with a metal detector as I did in the 1980s, and I found a good amount of silver there back then. In the 1990s a bunch of people new to the hobby were digging up flower beds with shovels and now metal detecting is forbidden.

Yes, it is the actions of a few who are killing the hobby for the rest of us, but make no mistake, we ALL share some responsibility in contributing to this, each time we market a detector, sell a detector or show off our finds...no matter how careful or law abiding we are. It's not just new hobbyists not filling in their holes. It's much more complicated than that.

- Muddyshoes
Orlando, FL
 
The past idiots actions have been surfacing for a while, back in your face now . Greed has ruined it , just like everything else in life .I am allways thankful when I can hunt a property. Seems like U cant stop the greedy and its back firing on the honest MD. Just my small amount of time in this hobby , looks like U need to B on your toes and ready for the unexpected( no U cant hunt this area.) One thing I keep in mind is that I can find some places to detect , but with alot of respect and consideration, I will find places to detect. Timing is good , I do not hunt a lotof city, county parks . I love to hunt around old houses . I say stay under the radar and enjoy what u can and make the best out of it . Good luck to all who try and do there best.
 
Muddyshoes, Thank you for posting this letter. You are right there are to many people out there that just care enough about our hobby or our environment
or maybe they are just lazy. They either don't fill their holes or do a sloppy job, they litter sometimes leaving more than carry away.
They are usually the ones that make the most noise when more restrictions are placed on us.
 
Maybe a 2nd booklet or sheet of paper labeled WARNING!!!! It would show holes left uncovered and the general mess left by these idiots then pictures of NO METAL DETECTING signs and possibly some proper recovery techniques and/or youtube videos for those that are "visually oriented". Great Idea!!!

I used to work in a fishing landing tackle store where people would go out on a 1/2 boat. Some would buy a 1 day license and rent everything they needed. They just wanted to try it out. I drew up some basic fishing rigs that were common, and one or two basic knots, what hooks and weights would be suggested for that day, and answer some basic questions on how to catch fish. I mimeographed (that's COPIED for you young folk) hundreds of copies to be given out free. They were helpful. I think it could be done with metal detecting but it would be started at the manufacturer level and at the dealer level to be handed out with each detector purchase for free.
 
[size=large]i for one know that whites has vids on you tube showing how to dig and how to leave a hole. you can lead an idiot to you tube but you can't make em watch. seems to remember garrett also shows how on their vids which also are on you tube. that would just leave first texas and minelab. haven't seen any from them. don't mean they aren't out there. just means i haven't come across them. at least some of the manufacturers have gone the extra mile.

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How about something like this handed out or mailed out with each order at the Dealer level.

More pictures, particularly of what some idiot left, would be nice to include so that the damage could be seen.

It makes no sense to buy a detector in a town where metal detecting is prohibited!
 
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