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Another days hunt with the Omega

Keith Southern

Active member
got a full day in today with the omega in a couple of civil war house sites.One site was a site I had never hunted but it did produce 14 .58 caliber minnie balls, a eagle button, a carved pencil, a butt plate off a Springfield, a craved nipple protector, old brass spoon, melted lead and such. Nothing deep though maybe 7 inches max.

No what I'm noticing is this thing loves flat iron like busted kettles and plow points and such also eats up crown caps ought to be good on tin back buttons.
Now I like a detector that hits flat iron and such that was one of the things about the t-2 I didnt like it I'D'ed iron too good.
the Omega handles nails fine but loves flat type thick iron calls it 80 on flat iron but it does squeal on it.
I wouldnt have dug the butt plate with the t-2 the mxt yes t-2 no so I like that.
One thing that concerns me is the conductors in the 40-49 range sometime if there not round wont read but one way.hate to leave a deep spur.It will do it!I almost left a few pieces today in that range till I learned what it was doing. Question is why is it doing it at all? Might not be a good jewelry hunter if you want chains? I dont know I dont look for that stuff but I know lots of relics hit in the 40's and all relics are not round.
Need some info on why its doing this.

Keith Southern
 
I've noticed that too and with both coils to a varying degree. I see where Tom D noticed it and commented on it also. Around here about the only thing that comes in at the low foil range is dainty gold rings and well, foil. :) It seems to do it on small bits of foil but not small rings. I'm wondering if it isn't some kind of software "trick" that Saad might have done to help ID "bad" targets of that conductive range? Usually, when I'm hunting, I sweep over a spot several times before I move forward and I've never noticed the Omega or the Gamma miss something in that range and then hit it but always the other way around, in other words, it seems to always hit it initially and then not hit it on SOME of the subsequent swings. Another thing I've noticed on some of the small foil trash is that it'll read quite a bit higher from one direction but gives itself away when you recheck it at 90 degrees, sorta like what some of the iron targets do. Of course all of this is only when in the disc mode and I've gotten in the habit of rechecking these sorts of targets in all metal and that always provides the full story. Hopefully Mike will chime in on this one for clarity.
 
If it solves these "problems" ?? How's the Gamma on those types of objects Brad?

Tom
 
Thats the range for Old US coinage..Like on the F75 ,and T2 models.. 53 to 59 I believe is the range on F75..pointed out in the manual of the F75
 
the Omega handles nails fine but loves flat type thick iron calls it 80 on flat iron but it does squeal on it.

I noticed on mine that pieces of aluminum can also read 80.....
 
What I noticed, using 5" DD coil, in the disc mode set at 40. Take a dime and a old bottlecap (not those new Bud Light ones that sound/ID like dime/quarters) 2 inches apart. The dime will only hit only one way, with an approximately 79 ID. The old style bottlecap does not give a good signal, but almost completely masks the dime. I will be paying more attention to those 70+ ID one way hits.
 
All too often I read a reply in answer to someones post where they suggest only dig the two-way responses because one-way signals are junk.

I like to hunt a lot of older sites where iron nails and similar ferrous crap (aka bottle caps) cause all sorts of frustrations and I happily recover the 0one-way signals and know that VDI numbers and TID indications are often ... wrong. That's why we can still find good stuff in well-hunted sites because other folks, expecting 'perfect' responses and displays (just like the ad slicks and TV commercials and YouTube videos hint) leave a lot behind.

Monte
 
Just think Hundreds of years of drops, we've cleaned out all the easy in just a little over 50 years.. LOL...... 47 years of no New Silver drops ( 1964) last made ........... It's going to be where we have to concentrate on Jewelery losses, and Mostly private property in the next few years..... Or some really deep seeking detectors are going to have to be made.....


I know, I know, it's never hunted out.............. But it is getting harder to find it !!!

I used to be able to go blocks..and find 20 pieces of Silver.. Now I drive miles..and if I find two three pieces I'm a Happy Man.... Most days just clad.... Good thing it's just a Hobby Hahahahahh..
 
Masking is actually our "friend" if one focuses on the old stuff in previously hunted sites.
 
correct monte! it's been known for quite awhile now,that private homes,AND farm fields have been the
'smart play" so to speak.starting next spring,will start "door knockin'..heck!..all they can do is say no!
just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
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