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Anybody ever heard of this guy - Stan Grist

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bdahunter

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I'm looking at gold prospecting in Ecuador as we are staying in the town of Cuenca for a month, every google search on gold panning and ecuador brings up this guy - Stan Grist.

http://www.adventure-trader.com/

Wondering if anybody has heard of him and if so is he legit?

Thanks,

Eric
 
I would appreciate your feedback about my web site. Please tell me what about it looks hokey. I certainly do not want to come across that way and would like to change whatever it is that does not look sincere.

For whoever would like free assistance with gold prospecting or treasure hunting in Ecuador, my home address in Quito is Alberto Guerrero 180 y Paez. My home phone number is 593-22-244-276.

I appreciate your comments, Stan
 
Well it's 9 am here in Cuenca and 'Stan Grist' registered as a new member of Find's Forum 6 hours ago according to the site, that makes it 3 am in Quito when you registered. I guess I like sleep more than 'Stan Grist' does.
I like an adventure as much as the next guy but I'm not Indiana Jones, haven't seen any bones of giants or been to El Dorado based on Jesuit maps from the 1600's either. Those aspects of the web site tend to take on an insincere tone, especially on a website about treasurehunting which is a little on the fringe in the first place as we all have experienced as treasure hunters. I've seen and done more than a few wierd things in my life but I wouldn't include them in part of my website, some things you ration out to people as you judge can handle the information.
Covert Hypnosis and the Art of Seduction also fall into the categories of things that are not above board, this doesn't reinforce the 'philanthropic' image that is apparently the foundation of the website. A bit like having your cake and eating it too.
To be fair, I haven't met the real Stan Grist in person but I am certainly curious enough to make the 5 hour trip to Quito from Cuenca. Before I make a 10 hour round trip and an overnight stay in Quito, it would be prudent to do my 'due diligence' on the credibility of the information on offer. In the end I'll be doing a little panning in Ecuador this month and some underwater detecting with the CZ-21 as well but first I will complete my due diligence.

Maybe there is a sucker born every minute and we've all been one at some point in our lives, I'm still curious to meet Stan Grist.

Cheers,

Eric:cool:
 
Yes, I do get up pretty early in the morning.

I invite you to visit me in my home in Quito, Eric. You have my phone number and address. The flight from Cuenca to Quito only takes 35 minutes and cost about $40 one way, depending on which airline you use. I'll even pick you up at the airport if you like. I can give you many ideas of where you can go to pan for gold and treasure hunt. It would be a pleasure to meet you.

Stan
 
For Eric and anyone else in this forum, I will be happy to send you a free, complimentary copy of my e-book, How and Where to Find Gold in Ecuador. Simply send me an email to: sdgrist@yahoo.com. I will return the email with my e-book attached. Then you will be able to better judge the value of my information.
 
i am more than familiar with "treasure" stories. If one touts their business as an opportunity to "search" for gold or treasure that is fine, but to throw in carefully crafted hooks that strongly suggest success, then as Eric indicated, throw in some "tin foil hat" stuff that readers are to take on faith?
Tell ya what, on our gold mining site we advise members of the hazards of the wilderness and how to deal with them, along with government regulations regarding gold and treasure seeking. We would never advise people to come to a foreign country and not bother to mention the possible danger and problems associated with that major undertaking. But then we are non profit, not even any ads seen by members so kindly do not beat the drum for yourself here on an unrelated forum.
Try our hard working dedicated miners and see if THEY believe you.
Cariboo gold miners
 
1. I am not here to sell anything to anyone, nor to convince anyone of anything about Ecuador.

2. I do not make any money from people who come to Ecuador. I don't recommend that you come to Ecuador. I am only here to help people who are already on their way or who are already here. I have at least 10 new people each month come to visit me in my home to ask me questions about adventuring in Ecuador. I do not charge for this, neither do I try to sell anyone anything when they visit me.

3. Yes, traveling to a foreign country can be dangerous. Traveling anywhere can be dangerous. However, after having lived in Ecuador for 25 years and never being robbed, assaulted or mistreated in any way, I figure it is much safer to live here than in Detroit where I grew up. Ask Eric how he feels about his safety in Cuenca.

4. Even though there are commercial gold deposits throughout the entire country of Ecuador, the nuggets are not laying on the surface. As in any country, it is necessary to work for the gold. If you work for it, you produce it. I've been doing it all over the country for 25 years.

5. Ecuador has mining and environmental laws as most countries do. However, you can pan or sluice anywhere you like with a landowner's permission which is almost always easily granted.

6. If anyone has any questions about coming to Ecuador, I am happy to answer them. But please do not come here unless you are already an international traveler.
 
That said I have visited some dodgy areas of this continent, parts of Peru being particularly bad and Guayaquil in Ecuador having some very bad areas. Rio de Janeiro had some rough areas as well and I was cased by a mugger there but had enough street smarts to spot it early and get out of harm's way. The practice of grabbing tourists in taxis is pretty unique to south america but being novel doesn't make it anymore dangerous than some of the muggings and home invasions that have become prevalent in parts of north america.
Even Bermuda which had a very safe reputation only a few years ago has become a much more dangerous a place to live in the past couple of years; just part of the reason I left that tropical paradise. Shootings and violent crime are becoming a common occurrence on that little island of 60,000 people, something I wouldn't have believed could happen only 5 years ago.
Whenever there are large divisions of income and inequities you will find crime increasing - the division between rich and poor is far greater in south america than in north america so this may be part of the problem. Cuenca seems to have less of a disparity when it comes to income than other cities I have visited in south america, so the crime rate is lower here. However, It is still odd in my mind to walk past a pharmacy or a bank and see an armed guard wearing a bullet proof vest and cradling a shotgun in his arms but this is the norm in south america. All things being equal Cuenca is a safe locale provided you aren't stupid and go wandering around in bad areas at questionable times, something I wouldn't do in major cities in north america either.
Some of the press is biased and works to keep people from moving around the globe, I've never been one to fall for this ploy that governments everywhere use to keep their citizens at home and paying the taxes needed to prop up the system.

Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear,

Eric
 
It used to be pretty wide open for gold mining in Ecuador but there was a freeze on mining for a couple of years at least until recently. This is based upon what information I can find online, my spanish is rudimentary so it is tough to get info that is current and precise. I do know that the Fruta del Norte claim is huge and proceeding as planned again, at least that's what the papers seem to say.
Taking private Spanish lessons in Cuenca to get my spanish language skills up to an acceptable level again, 7 years living on an English only island has really made my spanish rusty.

Cheers All,

Eric

PS: Thanks, Wayne for being the excellent moderator that you are.
 
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