Anyone here using killer-B's with their tesoro ? If so, question:

[Tom_in_CA]

I realize that the mono-tone beep-or-no-beep 2-filter machines don't require a super-duper quality headphone set. Since they are not so reliant of subtle tones and pitches, as a full tone-TID machine (like an explorer) is, for instance.

But if anyone here IS using killer-B's with their 2-filter Tesoro (like a silver sabre, or any other similars):

How do you have the two switches set when using your Killer B's? Ie.: the up or down position, and why for each setting ? If you were to change the right hand toggle switch to the other position, can you do this experiment: assuming the headphones cease to work, then gently pull the jack out a notch or two, and see if there's a point-at-which the sound comes back (yet not pulled out enough that your external speaker begins to work).

thanx!

 

[Pap]

I have an older set of Killer "B's" and they only have one switch on the headphones. In one position there is no sound and in the other position there is sound in both. This is on both of my Tesoros an Eldorado and a Golden uMax.
Pap

 

[SkiWhiz]

Most headphones have either one or two toggle switches. One of them is for compatability (stereo/mono as some call it), this is to make the phones work with different detector brands and the other toggle switch is a limiter this keeps the phones from producing too much sound on a close or large target that could otherwise hurt your ears/hearing. On phones with only one switch it will be the compatability/ stereo mono switch.

 

[tabman]

I highly recommend the Killer B Wasp headphones. They are very comfortable and work extremely well with all my detectors. Lifetime Warranty is nice.

tabman

 

[Monte]

I really enjoy using the 'Wasp' headphones with the Tesoro's and Classic's and some other models because, with my hearing loss, the audio option is very beneficial. Currently I am using my Pro Star headphones until my Killer B 'Wasp' set gets repaired and returned .... hopefully before spring weather arrives and drives off the cold snap.

I realize that the mono-tone beep-or-no-beep 2-filter machines don't require a super-duper quality headphone set.

I disagree with that, Tom. Not all two-filter models benefit from higher quality headphones to hear a weaker, softer, deeper target response, but those are usually the models that rely on a saturated audio as well as a clipping filter type circuitry. With those models, it is either a full response or no response. That would include models like the old Bounty Hunter Big Bud Pro and some others based on that circuitry concept.

One of the things I liked about the Tesoro models, especially since mid '83 when we got the slow-sweep, quick-response Inca, was that those models used a good modulated audio, and with better quality headphones it helps to hear the softer or weaker responses from smaller and/or deeper targets. It doesn't matter if they are a single tone or multi-tone response, as long as they have a good modulated audio, not a fully processed and saturated type circuit.

Since they are not so reliant of subtle tones and pitches, as a full tone-TID machine (like an explorer) is, for instance.

Oh, but they are. It is true that some higher-dollar or upper-end detectors might have a multi-tone audio option [size=small](but so do some lower-cost offerings)[/size], and even then it is all a matter of how they process the target response. Some low-end detectors, like a White's Coinmaster or Teknetics Delta and others, do not have a modulated audio and almost all that you hear gives a full-audio response.

Some models provide more operator options, like a Teknetics Omega. It has a more processed 3 or 4 Tone ID option which is okay for most casual coin shooting, but the single and 2-Tone choices are very modulated. That makes for more audio response 'information' and using a top quality headphone can be a real benefit. It can also help those of us who have lost a lot of hearing, making it more difficult to hear the more subtle weaker/deeper responses.

It also depends on if they are using a true, Threshold-based All Metal mode, or a motion-based Discriminate mode and the particular model used.

But if anyone here IS using killer-B's with their 2-filter Tesoro (like a silver sabre, or any other similars):

How do you have the two switches set when using your Killer B's? Ie.: the up or down position, and why for each setting ?

Some models only have one 'compatibility' switch, and some, like my Killer B Wasps, have a limiter switch, too. Looking at the ear-cup, the front or left-side toggle switch lets you select a full-audio performance, or toggle to the 'limiter' position. That will limit the loudness and 'brightness' of the audio most often from shallower or closer or larger-size targets to be softer on the ears, more like a target at, let's say,