OK guys i am back on this great forum. i have been learning my new detector the deus and cant go into to much detail and although the weight is a fantastic asset i am back using my beloved ETRAC the depth is just the best the tones and the way i work it suits me as i have mega finds to prove this and it doesnt pick up a thing we call coke it blanks it out somehow where as with the deus sounds off on all these metallic rocks grrrrrrrrrrrr there is an old saying in england stick with what you know and this is soooooo right. i know some of you all ready know this but i just want to tell you this is a CRACKING site one where newbies can ask questions and get answers and that is just sooo important when starting on your journey with the ETRAC thanks all of you who have helped me on the past you are ALL STARS.