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Back To The Hunted Out House Site with the "Mini-Me" Coil

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Mike (Virginia Beach)

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No silver this time, but the little 4.5 x 7 pulled a few more keepers. A very rough Indian...saw "18" and what looked like 9-something...and a toasted 1920 wheatie. Also a gold heart-shaped locket and a early 1900's apple juice promo coin the size of a silver dollar....pretty cool coin and my hunting buddy Jack got one to using a 5" hockey puck coil on his CZ-7a Pro. Both were amidst iron, like all the stuff left at this place. We tried like hell to get some more silver but it wasn't going to happen today. I do think there are a few good finds left still. The weather was great...76 degrees and sunny!

Knew this one was good, but it was surrounded by iron blipping and the GOOD signal "hot spot" beneath the coil was absolutely TINY, like the size of a dime or smaller. I almost didn't dig it because I thought it was a rusty nail but when I got the coil hust right, this is what I got so I dug.
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And here she is...
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Pretty cool coin, I think.
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This was unexpected!
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Here's the group of the stuff worth showing...Indian on the left, the front of the coin is FAR worse.
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Here's an extreme close-up of the 1920 Wheatie...old Abe has seen WAY better days, huh?
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Nice hunt, Mike. That small coil is proving itself. Ron
 
Boy, that Indian sure does look like it has seen better days, and I have only seen the back of it. Good thing it was a Common Date Indian because if it were a good one, I think I would have heard you crying yesterday when you found it, so thank god for that. I like the Locket and the Token myself. Neat looking Token I think. Hope a few more hidden treasures surface for you on a return trip. Good Luck and HH.:thumbup:
 
Hello

Nice finds. I purchased a 8" Sun Ray coil with my SE, and was thinking about picking up a 5" Sun Ray when it gets closer to Spring/Summer. I've read that the 10.5" coil that comes with it.. is a little large for trashy areas.

Do you run with 'stock' settings on your SE.. or have you done some major tweaking?

Thanks!
DB
 
Nah, I pretty much come out of stock with any machine before I leave the house for the first time. With the Explorer, I usually run with Iron Mask enabled and then run it all the way to the left in All Metal. That way I get to hear EVERYTHING in the ground and I don't have to contend with constant nulling out as I go over iron and other dicriminated stuff. Then I listen to the tones and look at the visual ID's and decide what to dig. I run the gain at 6 or 7 and I run Ferrous tones and use Max Variability on the tones and max limits. The threshold I run DOWN to where I can hear it but just enough...not loud and annoying. I have good headphones so don't need it jacked up. I also never run Semi-Auto as I find that when I have tried it, I lost too much depth.

I also don't jack the sensitivity up real high either because I have found that this can be counterproductive, very often making the machine unstable and you can lose depth by running it too hot if the ground isn't clean enough to do that. I usually start out at about 20 or 22 at the most. I can hit 10" deep silver in my test garden at that setting abd when I go to 24 it goes away...no hit. Plus the machine will be more stable and predictable with the sens a little lower rather than higher. In my test garden I lose depth once I drop below 18 or go above 22. It's not that way everywhere but I have a few other sites where it is, so do beware of that. As I have posted recently also, with the new 4.5 x 7" mini elliptical coil I recently got, I can run the sensitivity much hotter...like 28 to 32...usually keep it at 30 and get great depth and stbility with it and it works SO well in trash. The stock coil is a little big and a little too sensitive for a lot of trashy or iron rich areas and the little coils will excel there. The Sunray 5" would be nice...they make good stuff. I have an Excelerator 5" and the 4.5 x 7 is better and I would expect it to be better than the Sunray...because of the shape and design of it. I felt it was better suited to the SE than a round small coil.
 
so the 4.5x7 is the way to go vs the 5" round boy? Are they equivalent for working trashy areas.. or does the one go deeper.. or is one more accurate. This is great to get this info before I purchase.

Thanks!
DetectorBase
 
I think the 4.5 x 7 is the bomb in trash. It's a DD coil, so two coils in one. It's kind of shoe-shaped, so it's easy to "sneak up" on targets that a round or larger coil might miss. It's very stable and has great depth and can be run very hot. It's a no-brainer to me. It's a very well-designed and good looking coil too.

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The 12.5", the 4.5 x 7", and the 10.5"...
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Hmm.. I'm liking that. I think when I do purchase.. I'll go for that 4.5x7. I see you have extra lower/upper assembly. I opted for that. I want to be able to switch on the fly.

Thanks for the advice!!!
DetectorBase.
 
Yeah, switching on the fly is easy that way...takes like a minute...excellent. Ideally I would have another one for my 12.5", but you have to draw the line somewhere. :shrug:
 
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