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:ban:Royal Caribbean will CONFISCATE my machine!:ban:

I appreciate all the insightful research regarding this topic. It's their ship. So, what to do? Stay home? No, you get on the boat and play by the rules and have a good time 'cause that's what you paid for. Leave your troubles behind, etc. But what are the rules if they won't tell you? What cruise line will let you take a machine aboard? They could say yes. They could change their mind at anytime. The point is that RC would not put it in writing to me that the answer is NO. Do they bend the rules only if you are a treasure magazine editor but not for the average guy? Thanks for this web site allowing me to reach a potential target audience so quickly. Please let me know of any new positive developments. Thanks so much and happy hunting.
 
I have been on 17 cruises on mulitple lines including Royal Carribbean. No one has ever said no to me taking my detector on board or anything else for that matter. I think Royal Carribbean is the worst cruise line with extremely terrible customer service. I would not trust anything they have to say. They are a corporation that just cares about the money as most corporations do. They dont seem to have any true organization and policies change depending on whom you talk to at the time.

Good luck on your trip!
 
Cruising is very popular. I know of a family that cruises twice a year plus goes on an additional family vacation. That family liked being pampered onboard. They said that sometimes they didn't even get off the ship in port because they said they already saw that island already. I am sure they got a nice bill at the end of the cruise for all the extras. This family that I know is not into metal detecting, that's for sure. As for me, I see the ship as transportation to the islands. Sort of a traveling hotel. If you look into it, cruising in general can be cheaper than booking all that stuff separately. So anyway, your vacation is what you make of it. You really don't have to spend a lot of money to have a good time. I could write a book on that. I see a cruise as an opportunity for adventure, not an all you can eat travelling buffet.

In response to one of the above comments, I have saved up enough money for this vacation for a while now. So essentially it is prepaid. I don't plan to have any extras onboard, not even for soda. I shopped around to book this vacation and that takes time and some knowhow. It took me years to have enough money to buy a good metal detector. I do a lot of volunteer work. Treasure hunting is just one of my hobbies. My volunteer work has touched thousands and thousands of people. So, yes, I am grateful for many things. I'm grateful that I can walk after I broke my leg two years ago. I'm grateful I didn't break my skull on the invisible ice. I'm grateful to have all the basics. I'm grateful to have this computer I am typing on. I'm grateful to have the time to type on this chat. I'm grateful for the cruise I am about to go on. I have many passions. For if I have no passion, I am dead.

So who am I? What do I look like? Maybe you already know me. Does it matter who I am? I represent the consumer, the public, the customer. I am not on Facebook. I have never Twittered. I have never gone into a chat forum before to complain about anything. So why do I complain now? I am trying to get some advice from some passionate treasure hunters because maybe some of you have experienced the same problem. Well, the world is a different place. Chatting online has so much more instant impact than talking face to face. Over 320 people read my initial message on the first posting day. I find that amazing. On top of that, it's free! The rules for traveling by air and sea have changed. So, are the rules for our protection? Don't know. They won't tell us. So, what are the rules anyway? Treasure hunting machines aren't even on the list at RC.

I have worked for a very large corporation in the past. In any large corporation, does the left hand really know what the right hand is doing? No one knows for sure. So why are the rules inconsistent in the cruise industry? It is damaging to RC to lose potential customers. Did you know in any given year there may be 200 different cruises worldwide to pick from? Just go on Travelocity.com and search cruises for any calendar year. It's overwhelming. Why else would RC spend all that money on advertising? So why wouldn't RC provide excellent customer service to me right now? What score should I give them on their post cruise customer opinion survey? Now that you treasure hunters are informed, maybe you have changed your mind about cruising at all. Or maybe you will still cruise, but not on RC? And that's too bad. So what should I do when I get to the island? Stick my toes in the sand, lay there and burn just like everybody else when just under my beach chair in the sand may lie a brand new Tanzanite ring that someone just bought in port....and lost? So sad...

Any tips on where to rent a beach detector for day in St Thomas?
 
I am very disappointed in some of you,I have a problem with no metal detecting policies. The State of North Carolina is on their high horse right now,no detecting in any parks anymore at least around here. I went to a state owned park the other day,I will not name it but the land was given to the state for free.The first thing you see is a big ass sign that says no metal detecting. The sign didn't say no beer drinking,no profanity,no wife beating,no nudity,it said no metal detecting.What is this hell?
 
Deese said:
I am very disappointed in some of you,I have a problem with no metal detecting policies. The State of North Carolina is on their high horse right now,no detecting in any parks anymore at least around here. I went to a state owned park the other day,I will not name it but the land was given to the state for free.The first thing you see is a big ass sign that says no metal detecting. The sign didn't say no beer drinking,no profanity,no wife beating,no nudity,it said no metal detecting.What is this hell?
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It is the socialist, nanny-state that results when a government becomes too fat and bloated.

As for the OP, the only way to attempt to affect a change is to write a letter to RC. Tell them about your conversation (including date, time, who you spoke with etc) and that becuase fo thier poilcy will not be booking any future cruises through thier company.
 
i sent this letter
I read that Royal Caribbean Cruise Line will NOT allow any beach hunting metal detectors aboard any of their ships. If this is true I will look to other cruise lines to book my future cruises as I am now retired and plan on going on cruises.
Donald

i got this reply
Dear Mr. Rath:

Thank you for your email. We apologize for the delay in our response.

Guests may bring a metal detector onboard if it is stored in a case. However, many destinations have laws prohibiting such an activity. We sincerely apologize for any disappointment this may cause.

Mr. Rath, thank you for choosing Royal Caribbean International.

Sincerely,

Helen Urban
Customer Service Representative

we need to support each other and send emails to parties that restrict us - it works
 
Good news!... at least for now?



Here's RC's official response in writing regarding my complaint about my upcoming cruise about not being able to bring a metal detector onboard their ships:



to: ____________________________
sent by: web_reservations@rccl.com
sent on: 09/27/10 4:00PM


Dear ____________________________

Thank you for your email. We apologize for the delay in our response.

Metal detectors are not a prohibited item onboard Royal Caribbean's ships. However, if a guest brings one onboard, it must be stored inside the guest's stateroom. Additionally, use in a port of call is subject to local laws and regulations. While Labadee is a private resort, Haitian law may still prevent their use on land. We recommend contacting the Haitian government on the legality of a metal detector's use on the beach.

__________________________________ thank you for choosing Royal Caribbean International. We look forward to welcoming you onboard.

Sincerely,

Nichole Burcal
Resolution Specialist
 
If there is nothing in writing prohibiting it, I would take my detector and be happy and not spend one second worrying about it.

If the cruise line still confiscates it, you've got good legal grounds for a refund.
 
I think Tom in CA said it best
 
go-outside-&-play: thanx for posting the RC reply. It was exactly as I suspected: Their earlier waffling rules on letting a guest bring their detector on their ships, was borne of no ill-will against detectors themselves (afterall, there's no place to use one on a ship anyhow, right??) It was simply borne out of their thinking that it is illegal (or could be) at their various ports/destinations. Notice they say: " We recommend contacting the Haitian government on the legality of a metal detector's use on the beach " No doubt, this tactic is probably what caused them to think it's illegal, is that they too (at some point in the past, or perhaps for other ports they stop at) have done this very thing: Ask.

And herein lies the problem. Scroll back and read my previous post in this thread. You can sometimes get a no, from someone in a bureaucracy, because their answer is couched in terms of antiquities law, shipwreck salvor stuff, exporting gold bars (ala Mel Fisher type legal hassles), raiding pyramaids, etc.. While the laws might never have been meant, or never were applied to fumble fingers type beachgoer stuff, nonetheless, since you ask, they are compelled to give you a technical answer. And some deskbound bureaucrat will take the safe way out, and just say "no". It happens all the time here in the USA afterall (a park, or school, or beach, has always been detected, no one's ever been bothered, then presto, someone takes it upon themselves to ask at city hall, and someone there tells them no??). So why too wouldn't it happen on an international level?

So RC's advice to "ask the government" sounds noble, (afterall, you "can't be too safe", right?) but it just pushes this vicious circle of self-fulfilling prophecy. And again I say, that RC earlier "no metal detectors" answer to one person, was itself probably born out of some ding-bat asking "can I take my metal detector onboard?". I mean seriously folks! Do you really think ship personell riffle through your bagagge, looking through your underwear, asking "what's this, and what's this, and what's that" etc... to begin with? Why did someone think they needed to ask if they could take their detector on a ship, to begin with, is beyond me :(
 
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