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Best Beach Water Detector?

LINDABONITA

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I'm thinking on buying a submersible water detector later on. Which one would you all recommend? These are the qualifications: submersible, good in black sand at the beach and if possible good also in dry land for example beach combing. Any responses will be appreciated and thanks for your replies.
 
The sea hunter is a good machine and priced nicely. The salt and black sand will be ignored by the machine because it is a PI. The only issue is that if there ia alot of iron where you plan to hunt, the machine will drive you nuts. It picks up all metals.
 
Possibly the best salt water detector is the Excalibur, if for no other reason but that it seems to be the most popular. The Garrett Infinium is a contender, as it is a PI and the only one with features that help ID iron. I personally like the Fisher CZ-21dual frequency VLF, but then I like Fishers in general. I would rate the Whites models at the back, but serviceable. I've seen "issues" with them, so I lack confidence in them, compared to these others.

None of these are greatly suited for the land, however, when properly set up for the salt beach. The Infinium can interchange coils, so it works on land after a fashion. But really, you should not ask one detector to work well in both the salt and land environments. What works well in one, means compromises and perhaps poor performance in the other. Most water detectors are needlessly heavy, even clunky, for use on the land, as well. Heck, the Excalibur even needs a support harness to be it's best down at the beach, the environment it was designed for! Can you imagine how it would be at the local park?
If you are going to be a dedicated water hunter, then have a dedicated water unit.

The overiding concern for any beach detector is IRON. You must dig the other targets all the way down into the foil range, if you want the gold, so you really only want iron ID of some sort. PI's don't have it as a rule, although again, the Infinium offers some ferrous audio indication - not foolproof, but better than nothing. Without iron ID, you will end up moving mountains of sand for rusty fishhooks, bottle caps and nails. All of the VLF models worth considering are good iron ID'ers.

The other concern is depth. Sand shifts at the beach, and what was shallow yesterday can be deep tomorrow. PI's give the ultimate in depth, and so are a wise choice for the ocean beach. Here again, you are moving lots of sand, with no assurance that you are not digging up an encrusted iron "blob". The mulitfrequency VLF detectors are a step in the right direction, here with their better iron ID, and give surprisingly good depth themselves.

SO where does this leave you? If you are on a budget, I would consider a used Garrett Sea Hunter II, CZ 20 or Whites multifrequency VLF units (this is one of the only times I'd suggest the Whites - when buying used as a first timer).
If cost is no object, I would spring for a new Infinium or CZ-21. Both are top of the line, rugged instruments that work well in either fresh or salt water.
 
This is the same question I am asking right Now...I Live near Lake onatrio(fresh water) ,Im having a hard time deciding between the Excal 2 and the infinium,,,,Any suggestions would be great..I want great depth..I figure the Infinum will go the deepest,but the excal has Tone id and will save all the iron digging..Am i correct??Thx guys
 
Yeah it picked up a whole lot for Mel Fisher, about $420 million worth, when he uncovered the Atocha with that detector.

Bill
 
I use the Infinium and only have freshwater lakes where I live. I have used it in Lake Huron a couple of years ago and it worked good. Using a PI in fresh water requires the user to plan his/her hunts to hunt areas which have less junk and more rings/coins. That is usually waist deep and deeper. It is also in areas which have been hunted by others using the VLF's including the Excaliburs.
 
Wait for a while until you get real good with a land machine. Hunting in water is fun, can get expensive, as now you need to make a shopping list for a wet suit, water scoop, water shoes/boots, goodie bag etc. Lets see if Garrett comes out with a fresh water machine soon. :)
 
NiagracountyNY said:
This is the same question I am asking right Now...I Live near Lake onatrio(fresh water) ,Im having a hard time deciding between the Excal 2 and the infinium,,,,Any suggestions would be great..I want great depth..I figure the Infinum will go the deepest,but the excal has Tone id and will save all the iron digging..Am i correct??Thx guys
If it were me, I'd go with a discerning detector, because of iron. You will find that the Northern Tier lakes are full of the stuff.
Much as I like the Infinium, I'm not certain it is keen in this regard - John could answer that better than me.
The Excal is a clunk to lug around (although once in the water, that is neutralized somewhat by bouyancy). But it is the better discerning detector when it comes to iron.
Note I keep saying "discerning." Since you must hunt in low discrimination when water hunting, you want to know the iron is there - not discriminate it out. There is one other that is pretty good at this, but it isn't a Garrett. Its the Tesoro Tiger Shark. I scooped a nice pocket knife with mine last season.
If cost were no factor, my highest recommendation for a freshie instrument would be the CZ-21, . It has an iron range tone, and is more ergonomic than the Excal. My other big-money choice would be the Infinium.
 
I have used the Whites PI for more than 20 years on and in the Atlantic in Florida with zero problems .The unit is still being used by my son. Whites makes a quality product....Water hunting in the ocean is a different animal compared to a fresh water lake . You have to contend with wave action and this can wear you out plus some units will pickup on the wave movement. Pin pointing in the water can be more difficult. This being said the rewards are there for you if you are persistent.
The most important point to remember in asking this type of question is you are going to get biased "OPINIONS" of machines that people are accustomed to using. Plus there are dealers hidden among the posters with their own agenda. Don't base your purchase on anyone's comments here or on any other forum..search the net and read purchaser reviews I wouldn't pay to much attention to magazine reviews.I have never seen a bad review of a machine in a magazine if they did that the reviewers would get another shot.... On some forums negative posts about a machine that comes from a manufacturer that is also a sponsor of the site have been removed.....if at all possible go to a dealer that has a test garden and demo units... if you live in Florida Kellyco has demo units,I am in no way recommending Kellyco they just happen to be a dealer I know that has demo units........... in the long run you will be much happier...
 
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