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Buffalo Nickels

NebTrac

Active member
Ok this is just creepy. Guys I have to tell you this, because I've had it happen way too many times. I went out again today and hunted a little closer to home...but at a picnic area near where I live. I'm good friends with the owners. Unlike the place I've been taping at, there is the chance for clad here. It was used as a picnic grounds from 1900 to around the '50's. Then reopened up in the 80's (the reason for clad). Anyway over the last 2 days I've dug 5 buffalo nickels. The one today was 1916. I didn't put a picture of it up, but this is what I want to relate to you.

I didn't film because it was sprinkling/misting rain while I was hunting. I got a signal that ran 21-14, 24-16, 10-15, and sometimes inbetween those numbers. The sound was a little weird too! This is what I'm talking about by digging out of curiosity!! I dug that darn buff at about 6-7". I don't know if it was on edge or what. Now here's the odd part. I checked the hole and plug in AM and nothing. No other signal at all. This is about the 5th time out of 10 or 12 buffs. that have came in with strange numbers and were only dug out of "wanting to know what it is". Throw other trash in the hole and I know it will throw that reading off as well.

In my opinion I think I'll dig any conductivity number 09-16 for nickels. Dang! I wish I'd filmed that. I'm going to get some of this footage sometime. The odd thing is V's have always held pretty good for the nickel range on the E-Trac, and the double buff. hole yesterday at 3" and 3" apart was smack on for nickel.

Other than some odd stuff the only thing I can think of that comes in, for me, at those ranges are can-slaw, bent over beaver tails, .22 mag. casings (sometimes shorts and LR's) and those pesky bottle tops (the ones used pre-1940's or so)

I've been using Andy's "old coin program", conduct. sounds, multi-tones, 29 variab, 30 limits, deep on, fast off, high trash, ground neutral (in auto sens. +3 its been running 23-27), threshold pitch 20. Come to think of it, when I found that buff. today the suggested sensitivity had dropped to around 19...maybe that had something to do with it, I don't know).

I really think the E-Trac is a killer on nickels as well as the others!!!!

Happy Hunting!!!

NebTrac
 
Sounds like a highly mineralized spot??
 
etracjoe said:
Sounds like a highly mineralized spot??

It's just in that area. Went 40 feet and sens. went back up to 23. But as I think about this Joe, I was probably 20 feet from their 2nd house. Their first burned down, and they re-built on the same spot...so I'll bet that's the answer to why that one was so strange sounding.

However I've had this happen at the area I've been filming at and my sens. runs 25 their about all the time. I'm going to attribute that to junk in the hole. The point, as I see it, is the E-trac shines on nickels as well, I just think a lot of people do not dig them, especially when they sound...well, nothing really like a nickel.

Take care,

NebTrac
 
I am thinking mineralization plus depth.I dig a lot of good stuff with odd numbers at my older sites with high minerals when over 5" or so.If it sounds solid and has a bit of depth it gets dug,some times good target and some times trash but well worth the extra effort for me,Ray.

PS. Never let the ID numbers be your sole factor when deciding to dig or not at older sites unless you want to leave a lot of goodies for the next guy :thumbup:
 
Those FE/CO numbers you said you were receiving on that buf seem to be typical for deeper targets in mineralized ground. In fact, your CO number only varied by three (14, 15, 16), which would have given a consistent tone. Remember, you're hunting with Conductive sounds and the tone will be based on the Conductive numbers of your signal....the FE number could be all over the place and you wouldn't hear any difference in tone....unless the FE number were to fall in your masked area (then you would get a null). It's the conductive # which gives your variance in tone while hunting in Conduct sounds.

I agree with Ray.....you really can't rely on a fixed FE/CO numbers for coins that are deeply buried, or are in more mineralized ground.....trust the tone and consistency of the tone more....rely on the FE/CO values less.

HH,
CAPTN SE
Dan
 
Thanks guys. All good advice. It seems in the past 6 months or so that I've been reading on the forums. Every once in awhile I read where someone brings up the question about not being able to find very many nickels. The "old saying" don't trust the numbers holds true once again. I'm going to get one of these on film one of these days, because I want people to hear that sound. It sure wasn't a good "solid" nickel sound. I think you guys answered my question on why though...mineralization. Where I'm at we have very little mineralization, but the burning of a building would sure add to it and now I know why things went down on the sens. level. Chalk it up to inexperience. It was a VERY good lesson. I appreciate your help gentlemen!!

NebTrac
 
Nice report Neb. I've been revisiting a park that I've pounded for a year and a half and now have a hard time finding any silver or wheaties in. So... I decided I would focus on deep mid-conductors, since I systematically skipped over these while cherry-picking the silver and wheats. The buffalo nickels are starting to show up, but boy, you certainly can't rely on the ID numbers for 'em. I'm running the ETrac kinda wide open (I only have the bottom third or so of the screen blacked-out, FE above 22 or so) with good results. I find that signals sound a lot better this way vs. any of the 'coin' programs. Of course, I'm digging a lot of deep pulltabs as well (amazing how they get down that deep for a light aluminum object). Good luck out there. - Jim
 
last weekend I had a buff come in at 2 directions solid 14-07 and it was solid at 6" so I dug, I was quite surprised to see the nickel, and like Neb said I re-checked hole with quickmask after removing the nickel and there was nothing else there throwing it off. I am trying hard to dig old nickels this year and I see I have to dig some weird signals to get em!
 
That's why I enjoy these forums so much!

The pool of knowledge at our disposal is exstensive:beers:

Thanks for sharing Nebtrac, enjoy those viddies. Personally, I dig quite a few of the low conductors(lead weights, tabs, foil) and usually get very few nickles. While I do hunt with a modified coin pattern, I see the need after this post to "open" it up a bit more on the nickle/gold side. I have 1 Buffalo nickle and had to trade 1 of my mercs to a friend to get it, so I'm still looking forward to digging my 1st.

HH
 
One thought I will add to those above is that old nickels are the most corroded coin I find (zinc cents aren't coins). I have found them all over the conductivity scale with several brands of detectors. Some read lower than normal, some higher. I found my first older nickel with my new E-Trac yesterday, a 1906 V nickel, because I decided to focus on finding some.

I have a bad habit, like many, of mentally tuning out lower conductors while I mentally focus listening for those higher tones of IH cents and above. The last couple weeks I have tried focusing on target depth and have had some good success with a wider variety of targets. I think I need to try two tones and see how I do.
 
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