JimGilmore said:
Ok, here I what I have and what I am thinking...
I have the outlaw and a cleansweep coil. I also have the 7 or 8" concentric donut.
A hole in the center is the 8" Concentric coil. The 7" is a solid body design.
JimGilmore said:
I want either a deeper coil or a smaller coil and not sure which way I should go.
With out reading further, my vote would be for a smaller-than-stock search coil. When I took on using a Tesoro as well as selling them back in mid-'83, I quickly swapped the 8½" Concentric off the Inca for the 7" coil off my Mayan and was very glad I did. I was used to using smaller-size search coils as that's what I did way back when I started detecting in the mid-'60s.
Today, getting ready to grab breakfast and then head out to a ghost town, I have only my Nokta FORS CoRe with a "standard" search coil which is a 7X11 DD. I'll only use that detector & coil in a more open area that has a sparse target count. All my other detectors are ready-to-go with a smaller-size coil. My Makro Racer has the 4.7X5.2 DD coil, and my Tesoro Silver
Sabre µMAX and Bandido II µMAX will be using the 6" diameter Concentric coils [size=small](the one Tesoro calls 5.75 but I go by a physical measurement)[/size]. Today, I encourage the use of either the 6" Concentric or the 7" Concentric coil for best all-around performance from a Tesoro, especially in any dense metal target site or working close to fences, poles or equipment.
JimGilmore said:
There are two areas I wish to cover and not sure which coil is a more useful bet at this time.
A smaller-size coil.
JimGilmore said:
If I get the 4" coil I could get closer to the fences and walkways.
Long ago I found the dinky 4" to work, but to be too small to enjoy any overall performance benefit as it des lack depth, and it has a very small coverage and requires a very slow sweep and a whole bunch of overlapping.
JimGilmore said:
Right now the machine give me a lot of falsing that I think is due to being close to the chain link fences.
Two things to do to help cut don on that chatter is:
1.. Reduce the Sensitivity a little to better deal with it when hunting very close to the metal fence.
2.. Remember to always work with a fence or piper or other metal object. Do NOT sweep towards-and-away from the problem metal as that can cause a lot of falsing. Get the search oil as close as possible, then slowly work the coil along the fence line, keeping the coil a uniform distance from the fence [size=small](or metal structure, or pipe, etc.)[/size]. Once you move a little farther away, you can increase the Sensitivity as necessary.
JimGilmore said:
The 2 main parks I want to hunt are at least 40-60 years old or older. So there may be deeper targets that The clean sweep cannot see. I am wondering if I might be better off trying a larger wide scan coil.
I hunt some parks that date back to activity in the 1860-1880 era and, still, the majority of the older coins I find are in the upper 5" to 6" range. A few years ago I was popping clad dimes and Memorial and Wheatie pennies in the surface to 4" range when I nabbed another 2½"-3" dime. It was a beautiful 1884 Seated Liberty.
Yes, I occasionally find a deeper coin, but I've been at this for over 50 years now and the bulk are going to be surface to 5".
Why a larger Wide Scan [size=small](Double-D)[/size] coil? Why not a larger Concentric coil? Both van w0rk, you just need to match their actual in-the-field performance.
JimGilmore said:
But I reallt do not want the largest since I really do not wish to be digging 10 inch deep holes in the park.
Whaat are your thoughts.
My thoughts are get a smaller coil. Either a 6" or 7" Concentric, then be patient and work the coil efficiently.
JimGilmore said:
Are wide scan coild able to get closer to fences and poles ???
No, not necessarily, and they also do not tend to Discriminate iron trash quite as well as a Concentric coil, either.
Monte