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Convince me to upgrade
- Thread starter Goldburn
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IF you are willing to get into the research part at this point in the game and LEAVE the parks,schools,and and regular hunting places and find older sites with possibilities of relics,gold items,including coins I'd say go for it! It may be that the increased depth and features will pay for it in one outing. I bought a CZ5 and DIDN'T follow that advice. I got depth all right-zinc pennies at 8",pieces of aluminum at a foot,etc. Research and site location are very important decisions,as my CZ sits in the closet because I haven't followed my own advice.:sad:
n/t
robert roy
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Well, the 2500 will probably stop you from digging crushed pop cans just because of the sizing/imaging.
Of course you could get the 1350 as well and save a bunch of money.
RR
Of course you could get the 1350 as well and save a bunch of money.
RR
That doesn't mean that the ACE is deeper. It just means you got most/all the coins with the ACE 250. The GTI 2500 is much deeper in every soil type which I have used it in. And I am doing my comparison with both stock coil and large coil. The ACE series do not have a true all metal mode like the GTI 2500, and that makes all the difference. However, that does not make the GTI 2500 a better detector in all aspects. Depth of a metal detector should never be the #1 reason to buy one.
treasurefiend
New member
If you want to add depth for a cheaper pricetag, buy the 9x12 coil, I love that thing. I have found plenty of items with it and I hunt with a buddy that also has an Ace 250 (but with the standard coil), he would check my targets and a lot of times he doesn't even get a signal due to their depth.
Dont be upset if the Gti does not impress you at first. It has a learning curve. Once you spend some time w/ it you wont go back. The imaging and target Id works in all modes including all-metal which is a plus. Lots of features you can experiment and play with. Garrett says it best with 40 years of metal detecting technology in the GTIs
treasurehound
New member
i would stay with the ACE.. LIKE john said you don't pick a detector for the depth but how it suits you . do u pick one for
the color ?? ohh this one is green i love green lets buy it .. same concept .. depth can be made by upgrading the coil
to the 9X12 . if u prefer . i stay with the standard 6x9 . its good in highly trashy areas , good in sand , parks, , wood chips
rocks, water . its a great detector and i am kinda new to the hobby. i like it because it gives me a challenge to guess
whats in the ground . u get skills after awhile . its not my choice .. to make .. i will stay with the ace .'
T H
tom
the color ?? ohh this one is green i love green lets buy it .. same concept .. depth can be made by upgrading the coil
to the 9X12 . if u prefer . i stay with the standard 6x9 . its good in highly trashy areas , good in sand , parks, , wood chips
rocks, water . its a great detector and i am kinda new to the hobby. i like it because it gives me a challenge to guess
whats in the ground . u get skills after awhile . its not my choice .. to make .. i will stay with the ace .'
T H
tom
I bought a 1500 in order to get the imaging, and loved it. BUT I later realized that it would not get the depth offered by the "all metal" mode of the 2500, so I traded my almost new 1500 for a 3 year old 2500. The imaging and accurate depth readings of both machines sets them apart IMHO. And with the 2500, I have air tested the all metal mode on a 12 pound iron weight, practically identical to a cannon ball, and have had an accurate I.D. at 4 to 5 feet. That's deep enough for me to dig! Keep in mind that the size imaging only goes 5 to 8" in depth for accurate sizing, but beyond that depth it still accurately identifies the targer. This is awesome. My MXT with 9.5" coil would only reach the 12 pound ball at 3 to 4 feet, and was definitely unable to i.d. the ball with any VDI whatsoever. IMHO the 2500 is right up there with the best as to depth, i.d. and way ahead with the imaging. Other machines' readings indicate only what the target might be IF it's coin-sized. The 2500 TELLS you the real size down past 6", whether it's coin sized or not. Awesome.
GarrettPredator3Massachusetts
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Follow your instincts.... If you want the 2500 get it. I personaly love reasearching before digging. I cant afford any of the fancy machines right now but I think I do well with my Predator3. Pretty cheap money. I think its been paid off for over a month now. I find tons of stuff with it. I love my machine. The name of the game is to have fun.....Enjoy whatever you get!!!! Happy Hunting!!!!!!
I've been hunting just about everywhere! Beaches, Parks, Old Homes, Schools.... Just not underwater as of yet.
I think I have checked out every book in the library on local history. It turns out, one of the parks close by was a sawmill in the 1900's. The depth will be a bonus here!
I've found that some of the best information comes from the senior citizens that I cross paths with in the park. Most times they are more than happy to share their knowledge!
My main reason for wanting the 2500 is for the imaging feature. Digging frantically for that dime signal only to wind up with a beer can has been quite frustrating.
A couple of weeks ago at an old home site, I hit a quarter signal that was a little iffy, I dug it anyway and wound up with a piece of bathtub.
How good is the 2500 at differentiating pull-tabs from nickels and dimes from pennies? To me, these are the main caveats of the 250.
I think I have checked out every book in the library on local history. It turns out, one of the parks close by was a sawmill in the 1900's. The depth will be a bonus here!
I've found that some of the best information comes from the senior citizens that I cross paths with in the park. Most times they are more than happy to share their knowledge!
My main reason for wanting the 2500 is for the imaging feature. Digging frantically for that dime signal only to wind up with a beer can has been quite frustrating.
A couple of weeks ago at an old home site, I hit a quarter signal that was a little iffy, I dug it anyway and wound up with a piece of bathtub.
How good is the 2500 at differentiating pull-tabs from nickels and dimes from pennies? To me, these are the main caveats of the 250.
You can't blame the machine for not being able to differentiate pull-tabs from nickels and dimes from pennies. However, as a general rule, nickels (when lying horizontal) give a soft sound, equally the same in all directions. Pull tabs make a rough sound, and give a slightly different sound when scanning length wise and width wise, again lying horizontal. Pennies from dimes depends how much oxidation has formed on either penny or dime. Discrimination on any metal detector isn't perfect, because the targets aren't in fresh dropped condition or always lying in a horizontal position. If you aren't sure if it's a good target, dig it. It costs you nothing.
Uncle Willy
New member
It isn't any better just has more features plus all metal and goes a bit deeper. I have six Garretts including the 2500 and it gathers dust in the closet.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
No detector can differentiate between nickels and pulltabs accurately or between dimes and pennies under certain conditions. Detectors can't see into the ground and operate on conductivity and probability. They basically process the signal received and make an educated guess as to what they think they perceive is in the ground.
Bill
Bill
Uncle Willy
New member
Yeah I have no problem telling the difference betwen the signal from a nickel or pulltab. It's as you describe. I very rarely ever dig a pulltab. Corroded or oxidized dimes will often read other than a dime but if one uses the "twitching" procedure they can pretty well narrow that down. The secret to this hobby is you have to be smarter than the detector. I often have cruddy, haloed, cents read as quarters. Detectors are not infallible and can often be fooled by the slightest discrepancy.
Bill
Bill
I don't know why Uncle Willy leaves his 2500 in the closet. Maybe because it's a bit heavy. From reading your second post a detector with imaging might be the ticket for you. I used to tie a bag to my belt loop to hold all the old cans and larger metal pieces I dug with my Ace 250. With the GTI 2500 I do not have to do that, ever. I also recover targets a lot faster because of the 2500s superior pinpointing. The depth is slightly better with the 2500 but the Ace 250 is almost as deep in discriminate mode. All Metal mode is very deep but I don't use it all that much. It would be great for serious relic hunting or for gold prospecting.
If you find a detector that can tell the difference between a pop top and a gold ring I'd like to buy one. The 2500 has more notches so it is a little easier than with the 250 but not much. My two best ever finds rang up right in the middle of pop top territory. On my 2500, dimes frequenty ring up as copper pennies depending upon how they are oriented in the ground. Many times if a dime registers as a penny and I pinpoint it and then swing the 2500 over that point it reads as dime the second time. Also dimes frequently image as size A where pennies are almost always B and sometimes C if they have a large halo from being buried for a long time.
The Ace 250 in the hands af a skilled treasure hunter is a better machine than the 2500 in the hands of a poor detectorist. In my hands I strongly prefer the GTI 2500 but I do very well with the Ace 250 too.
Chris
If you find a detector that can tell the difference between a pop top and a gold ring I'd like to buy one. The 2500 has more notches so it is a little easier than with the 250 but not much. My two best ever finds rang up right in the middle of pop top territory. On my 2500, dimes frequenty ring up as copper pennies depending upon how they are oriented in the ground. Many times if a dime registers as a penny and I pinpoint it and then swing the 2500 over that point it reads as dime the second time. Also dimes frequently image as size A where pennies are almost always B and sometimes C if they have a large halo from being buried for a long time.
The Ace 250 in the hands af a skilled treasure hunter is a better machine than the 2500 in the hands of a poor detectorist. In my hands I strongly prefer the GTI 2500 but I do very well with the Ace 250 too.
Chris
Uncle Willy
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Yeah that's the failing of many purchasers, basing their entire decision and purchase on alleged depth. As i've often stated, very few dropped coins are buried halfway to China and most are within the reach of the vast majority of machines out there and I've owned most of them. I've found coins from the 1700's at two inches and clad at eight inches, all in the same area. So go figure.
Bill
Bill