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CZ-70Pro Question For Dan-Pa;Mike Va.Beach;Mtdorramike:

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Hey Mike(VaBch)/Dan(Pa)or Mtdoramike, I have a question concerning my CZ-70Pro. When I was hunting an old city park, I got a couple of good Coin Signals, that would not register any depth when pinpointed. The signals were strong from 3 or more directions, and sometimes it would signal Coin-Iron.
I hunt with Vol-10, Sens-4, GB(Bobbing Meth.), and NOTHING Notched OUT, and in ID Mode. But, each time I removed a couple of inches of dirt from the hole, and checked the Pinpoint-depth Indicator, it would not register any depth. Furthermore, when I was down a good 8 inches or more, I could not get a response with my Sunray FZ-1 Probe either! So, I moved on to other targets.
Do you guys have any ideas on what this could be? A friend of mine, who uses an Explorer, suggested that if I turn down the Sensitivity, I should get a depth indicator. But, like I said, he uses an Minelab Explorer, and has no experience with CZ's. Curious minds want to know! Many thanks, NamVetLesTreasureSeeker
 
I have seen this phenom also with my cz70. I call it the Small Disappearing Target phenom. All Metal and TID modes pick them up but the PP can't seem to lock in or even non-existent. I usually find the target with my Vibraprobe (use PI instead of VLF so more sensitive) if I dig long enough. Mostly hot rocks, iron slivers or those bloody rusty berrets (I always find them on the beach it seems) are found. From what I have read, unless the items are real deep (10+"), iron bouncers are usually trash anyway.
btw these items are usually thin and sound smooth in the All Metal mode instead of an abruptness to the tone. Hard to explain but you that is what it the tone is like to me.
Keith
 
I have dug down and found pipes like 12-15" deep that I figure it was hitting on. Also aluminum cans will cause this as well. But I believe its a deep alrge target that causes this.
I don't get it with the C$ because with the C$ you have the ability to size the object so unless I'm relic huntin and the object apperas to be quite big, I pass on it.
But with the CZ70, it comes in loud and clear by at least two directions and depth registers "0-2" and then you dig and nothing.
HH,
Mike
 
I have to agree with Brissietex, I think what you're describing are probably deep rusty nails giving hi-coin false signals. And often times the giveaway is that you can't pinpoint them or that they "move around" on you. And in some cases, I have had targets that were good coin targets that were too deep to pinpoint until you got some dirt off of them, that's also possible. Or that "go away" after you break the halo and dig your initial hole. Yup, all of these things can and do happen. Hard to say which it is sometimes and what you end up doing is digging and if you are still coming up empty then time to move on. One other tip off might be if you're down 8 inches or more and still can't find it and the signal is strong, well it's probably an old wheel rim at 2 feet deep or something. Or a treasure chest. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
 
You might try lifting your coil up, if you are several inches off the ground and still get a strong signal you have a large and deep beer can or something larger.
 
THANKS Mike/Mtdoramike/Keith and Bud, I really appreciate you taking the time. HH, NamVetLesTreasureSeeker
 
Ok, I'll bite...What's a henway?
(with and without eggs, please) <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
 
............. 3-31/2 pounds dressed weight at the supermarket. The roasters and capons are heavier, but if you really want to feed a crowd, go for a tom turkey. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
Chet
 
Bout 4 lbs. <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol"> <img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
 
<img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D">
 
Les,IMO could be iron remnants ,hot rocks , buried infrastructure, or small bits of old debris and busted halo effect LOL.Old buried iron will give you many false signals from low iron to high coin, but you can't find a finite pinpoint,it will not go away. Hot rocks- Wilmington is plagued with them, i have dug a few and turned sens down and GB adjust to eliminate the falses with the rock as a target .Another possibility is smaller bits of decomposed metals that breakup when dug and you lose all remnants of them.I,ve been there done that with false signals and the one thing i try to do is remember,coins don't move around so pinpoint should be in same area all the time, raise coil and if you get a signal 12" above the hole <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">it's not a dime,my feelings are in a city park if you don't find the coin within 7to 8" from the surface it's probably deep junk.One thing you could do is go to 0 disc and listen for iron bonk sound. There are so many reasons for false signals i guess you just have to try for yourself and then determine what your frustration level is and move on to the next target as you indicated you do. HH Bill.
 
Fortunately as it gives us great depth on good targets is a very powerful unit..Our area does not have many hot rocks but is a good possibility as some areas are loaded with them. Another is you are just hitting the fringe of a deep signal, water pipe, old can, horseshoe or whatever after many hours in the field you will be able to determine these hits by the audio response and yep once went 15 inches for a crushed copper teapot myself.Just had to see what it was..
 
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