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CZ3d
- Thread starter Texan
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HaroldILL.
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Never been in one, But I would say GB a Hair Positive. Run 0 Disc. And Sens. High as You can without falsing. On Most 3D's it is between 4-5. That would Be My advice even though some like a Neutral GB, I think slight Positive in "MY" ground gets a Hair More depth.
Be sure and let us know How it goes as Curious what Top Machines are.
Be sure and let us know How it goes as Curious what Top Machines are.
HaroldILL.
Active member
A slightly Positive GB would Be a little rise in threshold as you get about a inch from the ground when GBing Detector in Auto tune. And just listen for the Highest Tone to avoid digging trash with 0 Disc.
I can't answer you from personal experience because to me hunting planted targets is akin to going big game hunting at the zoo.
But f I was, based on your list of detectors, I'd want to know how much deeper than 6" these targets would be planted.
If not much deeper than 6", I'd probably go with the Cibola because it handles a fast sweep speed much better.
But f I was, based on your list of detectors, I'd want to know how much deeper than 6" these targets would be planted.
If not much deeper than 6", I'd probably go with the Cibola because it handles a fast sweep speed much better.
I don't know what the "enhanced mode" on the 3d is, so will refrain from commenting specifically on that.
The normal mode and the salt mode both run at both 5 and 15 kHz simultaneously, but in slightly different ways. I wouldn't expect a big difference between the two with respect to picking up electrical interference, but there could be a difference of up to several decibels. Here we are 25 years after the intro of the CZ platform and this is the first time I've seen this issue being discussed.
The normal mode and the salt mode both run at both 5 and 15 kHz simultaneously, but in slightly different ways. I wouldn't expect a big difference between the two with respect to picking up electrical interference, but there could be a difference of up to several decibels. Here we are 25 years after the intro of the CZ platform and this is the first time I've seen this issue being discussed.
George was wrong about a few things -- very few. If he said something like that, it probably made sense in context even if it doesn't make sense nowadays removed from its original context.
Because we're in the line tracing business, we've actually done a bit of research on power line interference both as a signal to avoid and as a signal we want to detect.
Because we're in the line tracing business, we've actually done a bit of research on power line interference both as a signal to avoid and as a signal we want to detect.
Nothing like a post from a metal detectng legend to remind me how ignorant I am technically.
All these years I thought the enhanced mode was 5 kHz and the salt mode 15 kHz, not running simultaneously in both modes.
For all of Dave's knowledge, and it is immense, I'm confident that I've used the cz-3d more for detecting in recent years than Dave has. The face plate lists the two modes as "salt" and "enhanced". I'm guessing Dave is referring to the "enhanced" mode as "normal" because that is what the mode was called on previous cz detectors. I presume it's a matter of semantics, and Fisher changed "normal" to "enhanced" because that setting was tweaked to pick up more old coins in high tone on the cz-3d.
As long as your sniffing about Dave, I have a cz-3d question for you. With his exacting testing in virtually inert Florida dirt, Tom Dankowski seems to get around half an inch, give or take a couple tenths, more depth on a dime in enhanced mode than the salt mode. Any ideas why? Also he says that finding a proper 5" coil for the cz can often be a challenge. Do you have any knowledge of this?
All these years I thought the enhanced mode was 5 kHz and the salt mode 15 kHz, not running simultaneously in both modes.
For all of Dave's knowledge, and it is immense, I'm confident that I've used the cz-3d more for detecting in recent years than Dave has. The face plate lists the two modes as "salt" and "enhanced". I'm guessing Dave is referring to the "enhanced" mode as "normal" because that is what the mode was called on previous cz detectors. I presume it's a matter of semantics, and Fisher changed "normal" to "enhanced" because that setting was tweaked to pick up more old coins in high tone on the cz-3d.
As long as your sniffing about Dave, I have a cz-3d question for you. With his exacting testing in virtually inert Florida dirt, Tom Dankowski seems to get around half an inch, give or take a couple tenths, more depth on a dime in enhanced mode than the salt mode. Any ideas why? Also he says that finding a proper 5" coil for the cz can often be a challenge. Do you have any knowledge of this?
The "normal" ("enhanced") mode has a slightly better signal-to-noise ratio than the salt mode. This is because cancelling the salt signal cancels some of the target signal as well-- especially small nonferrous which can even disappear in salt mode.
the CZ searchcoils require tight specifications and are difficult to manufacture. In general small searchcoils are harder to manufacture than larger ones. So it's possible there's more variability in the 5 incher, although this thread is the first I've heard of it.
the CZ searchcoils require tight specifications and are difficult to manufacture. In general small searchcoils are harder to manufacture than larger ones. So it's possible there's more variability in the 5 incher, although this thread is the first I've heard of it.