deep coins help

[Anonymous]

hello,need some help now that im getting good at finding coins in certain conditions.i find all my coins 4 inches or shallower,which makes me wonder if i m not using the detector correctally or i do not reconize the signals.all my finds have also been by themselfs without any junk near them,another reason i think im missing alot of them.what difference in sound does the explorer make from an identical coin shallow or deep?and what will junk do to the coin if it over or under it? sens 17-22 gain-7 ferrous-deep on fast off-iron mask -0 to-3 and varible 10

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Personally....a 6 inch coin is moderate at best in my area and 10-12 inchers are deepies so 4 inches for old deep coins is poor at best(all areas differ) and in some areas a 6 inch coin is a deepie...Might try your gain at 10 as in 7 your in a modulated mode( deep soft-shallow loud and perhaps your missing the deep signals depending on your hearing and headphone selection.Of course Deep is mandatory in most cases and might also include fast if your worried about being masked by targets near the good coin target..Junk near a target can easily mask it and fast helps you get the coin with minimum masking.Masking can surely have an effect on the meter and have the target crosshair to be not properly displayed. I have found doesn't affect the digital number as much so is a good tool to check the target versus the crosshair..Might run your sens.(manual) a bit higher as long as your unit remains stable. Indeed setting up an Explorer is basically common sense..Might go out with an experienced Explorer hunter to hear what that 8-10 deepie sounds like by checking one of his deep signals as it will shorten the learning period.I would think at least an iron mask of -6 at least is warranted and many run much higher to Max -16...Last but not least a junk target over, under or to the side can cause masking and many good coins are missed because they are turned or masked...Hang in there and all will fll into place..

 

[Anonymous]

thanks,i dont use headphones,i tried it i cant stand them, i work a lot of brush.as far as the sens when you say stable what are the signs that the unit is becoming unstable?

 

[Charlie (OR)]

unless you start using the head phones, fact of life in detecting

 

[Bill W.]

I agree with Charlie. Using headphones is a fact of life especially with an Explorer. Some detectors you *might* be able to get away without headphones and get most of the coins. But, for almost all machines you're going to miss those deep coins that just give the light tink tink sounds. If your working brush use headphones that have shorter cords can make it somewhat easier.

-Bill

 

[Mike (Virginia Beach)]

Yup, Todd...as Charlie said...not using headphones? Forget the Explorer then. Because the wide range of tones it can produce and the subtle changes in the tones and threshold are lost without headphones. That's why all your digs are 4 inches or less. You ask how you can tell if the unit is unstable. You can't, because there's so much going on that you can't hear. Not only do you need headphones, you need some GOOD headphones. What is it you can't stand? How they feel? The Gray Ghosts and the Black Widows are very comfortable. And if it's the noise, turn them down. They do a great job of shutting out the outside noise, so the detector volume, gain, etc. doesn't have to be turned way up. My two cents...

 

[Dan-Pa.]

If I left my headphones home would not hunt, fat chance as I always carry a spare. Lots of good ones out there..Actually needed for any unit for depth and resolution of sounds in any unit.However with the Explorer and tones simply a must...

 

[Anonymous]

not good for me,i didnt relize head phones where that important i thought maybe you will miss one here or there and that was ok but i wont get any ?i guess i try them again,give me a hint at what the deep coins sound like,is it the same a shallow as far as its tone just quieter?

 

[Charlie (OR)]

I was told long ago that to really get to know what it sounded like on the Explorer was to do this.

Explorer hates air between coil and target so air test won't do very good but if you get a bunch of books with out staples in them take out to a clean area of ground then place a coin down and start stacking books one at a time on the target scan and listen each time remember to keep coil tight on top of the books.

I don't get many deep ones out here in Oregon but I have been able to pull IH cents from 9 to 10 inches they were almost like a slight iron false but did not move when I checked the target from different directions just a real faint short tone.

hope this helps, and remember a coin in the ground will pick up deeper than the book method.

Charlie