kermitdfrog
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I was wondering if anyone besides me owns (and uses) the gamma or am I the only idiot to buy the gamma instead of the platinum?
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does anybody use the gamma 6000
- Thread starter kermitdfrog
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Most of the time I use the Omega, but sometimes grab the Gamma because it has the 8" coil mounted and I might have the elliptical concentric or 5" DD on the Omega.
The Platinum has a preset Ground balance, as do the others mentioned, but it also has a Ground Grab feature to make an automated GB adjustment. The Gamma has Ground Grab, but it also features a manual Ground Balance just like the Omega.
The Platinum has a very simple Discrimination control that lets you progressively reject 'segments' such as Iron, Foil, Nickel, etc. The Gamma is like the Omega and allows you to reject targets progressively based on their VDI number for more precise discrimination. The Platinum works more like the Teknetics Alpha or Delta.
The Platinum has 4 Tone ID option, as do the Gamma and Omega, but the Gamma and Omega have a different breakdown. Their 4-Tone audio ID system put the US 5
Others here do use the Gamma. Don't confuse the Teknetics Gamma with the Bounty Hunter Platinum. They have a similar control housing appearance, but they are definitely different detectors. The Platinum is in the Omega-style rod & grip configuration, and the Gamma is in the familiar 'S' rod design. However, Gamma works much more like the Teknetics Omega and the Platinum doesn't.kermitdfrog said:I was wondering if anyone besides me owns (and uses) the gamma or am I the only idiot to buy the gamma instead of the platinum?
The Platinum has a preset Ground balance, as do the others mentioned, but it also has a Ground Grab feature to make an automated GB adjustment. The Gamma has Ground Grab, but it also features a manual Ground Balance just like the Omega.
The Platinum has a very simple Discrimination control that lets you progressively reject 'segments' such as Iron, Foil, Nickel, etc. The Gamma is like the Omega and allows you to reject targets progressively based on their VDI number for more precise discrimination. The Platinum works more like the Teknetics Alpha or Delta.
The Platinum has 4 Tone ID option, as do the Gamma and Omega, but the Gamma and Omega have a different breakdown. Their 4-Tone audio ID system put the US 5
kermitdfrog
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I thank you very much for your reply and explanation of differences in these two machines cause allot of people swear they are the same.
I did allot of research before I spent the extra $$$ on the gamma instead of the platinum and I felt comfortable with the decision to get what I hoped was superior performance despite the visual similarities, honestly I am not dissatisfied with this machine but I have no baseline for my opinion having not used a platinum.
I am using the stock 8" coil hunting at times very trashy ground with more EMI than you can shake a stick at, yes I'm hunting private residences in the suburbs but on ocasion I do get out in the woods or an old home site where I can run the sense at 85-93 but in my usual trashy sites due to EMI I have to keep it low 35-50 depending on how close I am to the interference source, yes I do try to stay away from power lines but some interference is unavoidable.
I have many questions about some of the odd things I have seen with this detector, some may be due to user error or EMI but one question that keeps coming back to me (cause I keep digging it) is when I'm out hunting I can pass over a solid dime signal and dig a dime most of the time but then a little later I can find the same Target I.d. and tone again and dig a lumpy piece of can slaw or a penny, this dosent only happen with dime signals sometimes I get I.d. numbers that suggest a round flat coin is under my coil (ex. 96-97 one way and 97 the other) only to find a rectangular key tag in the ground.
I understand (please correct if wrong) the I.d. numbers I see are a measure of conductivity in the metal and are not exactly definitive of shape or exact I.d. of an object but when I dig one of these definite coin signals and it turns out to be a nasty lump of trash and I rescan it on top of the ground I get the expected Target I.D. numbers which are normally far off from the I.D. I first encountered in the ground.
Is there an explanation for this or am I just being a "Noob" and need to practice more
I forgot to include depth of some of my examples, most of the time at 50 sense I get about 5" of depth on a coin sized object but I have had this problem happen anywhere from 2"-6" depth, only when the object is closer than 2" do I get a good solid and expected I.d. number for what I have dug.
I have used this machine long enough to kill my third battery so I guess a good estimate might be 50-60 hours and I have dug some keepers and stuff I knew might be trash before I dug it.
I did allot of research before I spent the extra $$$ on the gamma instead of the platinum and I felt comfortable with the decision to get what I hoped was superior performance despite the visual similarities, honestly I am not dissatisfied with this machine but I have no baseline for my opinion having not used a platinum.
I am using the stock 8" coil hunting at times very trashy ground with more EMI than you can shake a stick at, yes I'm hunting private residences in the suburbs but on ocasion I do get out in the woods or an old home site where I can run the sense at 85-93 but in my usual trashy sites due to EMI I have to keep it low 35-50 depending on how close I am to the interference source, yes I do try to stay away from power lines but some interference is unavoidable.
I have many questions about some of the odd things I have seen with this detector, some may be due to user error or EMI but one question that keeps coming back to me (cause I keep digging it) is when I'm out hunting I can pass over a solid dime signal and dig a dime most of the time but then a little later I can find the same Target I.d. and tone again and dig a lumpy piece of can slaw or a penny, this dosent only happen with dime signals sometimes I get I.d. numbers that suggest a round flat coin is under my coil (ex. 96-97 one way and 97 the other) only to find a rectangular key tag in the ground.
I understand (please correct if wrong) the I.d. numbers I see are a measure of conductivity in the metal and are not exactly definitive of shape or exact I.d. of an object but when I dig one of these definite coin signals and it turns out to be a nasty lump of trash and I rescan it on top of the ground I get the expected Target I.D. numbers which are normally far off from the I.D. I first encountered in the ground.
Is there an explanation for this or am I just being a "Noob" and need to practice more
I forgot to include depth of some of my examples, most of the time at 50 sense I get about 5" of depth on a coin sized object but I have had this problem happen anywhere from 2"-6" depth, only when the object is closer than 2" do I get a good solid and expected I.d. number for what I have dug.
I have used this machine long enough to kill my third battery so I guess a good estimate might be 50-60 hours and I have dug some keepers and stuff I knew might be trash before I dug it.
Next time you get a good signal like that keep swinging while moving the coil up in the air over the Target if it changes signal in a couple inches you have a coin if it stays the same probably a larger piece of "trash". Practice this and see what happens. Any penny 1982 or older may is as a dime due to the high copper content. After 82 they went to zinc and most register as such. The best remedy for the problems you have stated are asking questions ,as you have done, and practice. Sounds like Yup are heading the right way! Good luck. HH!
kermitdfrog
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I am currently making a test bed to have a controlled experiment to have a better understanding of how depth, sensitivity and moisture content of the soil effect tone and I.D. numbers of a few choice targets that I own but haven't found in the soil yet(silver coins, gold, etc.) And a few that I see on a daily basis.
I can positively identify a nail in almost all situations or depths but pennies seem to throw me a curve ball often, just when I think I have found another penny I pull a dime, quarter or a washer out of the ground and to be honest its really confusing it really is seeming more like a craps shoot with the odds in my favor.
This detector seems most reliable to give an accurate reading of size and type of metal at about 2-3" but beyond that the accuracy of Target I.D. diminishes quickly, is this a problem with my detector or how all teknetics operate.
I can positively identify a nail in almost all situations or depths but pennies seem to throw me a curve ball often, just when I think I have found another penny I pull a dime, quarter or a washer out of the ground and to be honest its really confusing it really is seeming more like a craps shoot with the odds in my favor.
This detector seems most reliable to give an accurate reading of size and type of metal at about 2-3" but beyond that the accuracy of Target I.D. diminishes quickly, is this a problem with my detector or how all teknetics operate.
You're welcome, and no, they aren't the same.kermitdfrog said:I thank you very much for your reply and explanation of differences in these two machines cause allot of people swear they are the same.
I feel you bought the better of the two, to be sure.kermitdfrog said:I did allot of research before I spent the extra $$$ on the gamma instead of the platinum and I felt comfortable with the decision to get what I hoped was superior performance despite the visual similarities, honestly I am not dissatisfied with this machine but I have no baseline for my opinion having not used a platinum.
I like, and use, the stock 8" coil for most typical day-to-day hunting. However, when it gets too trashy and depth of detection is impaired and target masking is severe, I go to the 5" Double-D coil. Then, with the better coil for dense trash, I work it more slowly and methodically and am pleased with the results.kermitdfrog said:I am using the stock 8" coil hunting at times very trashy ground...
Some makes and models are , by design, not able to get adjusted to the point of having any interference. they stay nice and quiet almost all the time and, quite often, lack that extra 'punch' that better models can attain ... if conditions allow.kermitdfrog said:... with more EMI than you can shake a stick at, yes I'm hunting private residences in the suburbs but on ocasion I do get out in the woods or an old home site where I can run the sense at 85-93 but in my usual trashy sites due to EMI I have to keep it low 35-50 depending on how close I am to the interference source, yes I do try to stay away from power lines but some interference is unavoidable.
With my Omega and Gamma I try to run the Sensitivity as high as possible all the time, and reduce it only enough to gain stability (if it is really noisy). Alsop, as a reminder, don't adjust the Sensitivity with the search coil held in the air or away from the ground. When I experience a little noisy condition, I keep my search coil close to the ground, about
Hi guys, thanks for the info! I have a good 20-30 hours with my Gamma. It is my first digital. I hunt with a guy who owns a Whites XLT. I swore tonight when hunting that my Gamma is superior but he covers trashy ground quickly and had double the coins including an 1837 large cent! I told him tonight that I was going to grab the 5' DD. He said to get the XLT but I am not willing to give up yet. My Gamma can read deap stuff his White's cannot, I know he is using a program that allows him to hover over a good signal and it cancels out the nearby trash. I will stand in an area for a long time as most sites are trashy. I must be passing up some good targets when I do not get a solid signal due to masking or inconstant signals after multiple passes. I will try raising the coil next hunt. Thanks for the info!
kermitdfrog
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All I can say is WOW!
I cannot thank you enough for putting so much care into replying to my question in a far more in depth way than anyone ever has before.
You have answered questions I haven't even asked yet, but they were questions I was going to ask.
I really wish I could get one hunt with you because it seems like you could probably teach me more in a day than I could learn in a year, doubting that would ever happen I will stick to the questions as long as people don't mind answering them.
Monte you are a truly helpful person and it is appreciated.
I cannot thank you enough for putting so much care into replying to my question in a far more in depth way than anyone ever has before.
You have answered questions I haven't even asked yet, but they were questions I was going to ask.
I really wish I could get one hunt with you because it seems like you could probably teach me more in a day than I could learn in a year, doubting that would ever happen I will stick to the questions as long as people don't mind answering them.
Monte you are a truly helpful person and it is appreciated.