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Doing the large cent dance!

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Its supposed to rain all weekend so I ran over to one of our beat to death parks for an hour or so tonight and had a bit of luck! 1835 and 1847
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Nice finds Charles. Where do the large cents hit on the Explorer?
Take care,
Todd
 
The area I found these has been covered well by a bunch of us with Explorers and Whites. I found two large cents within 20 feet of each of these last year. Both of these were solid LC signals. So how'd we miss them?
Could be a couple of reasons, the 1835 was pretty deep, 10+ and I had to chop it out of the still frozen ground since only the top 6 inches was thawed. Around here the ground feezes solid for months on end and it heaves up and down and coins tend to flip over, rise, and sink. You can hunt a spot dry, then come back in the spring after winter and find more coins, sometimes a bunch, sometimes not many. I think the 1835 was brought into range by the freezing ground.
The 1847 was not as deep, but was right off the park road and that patch is a serious trash heap plus theres a ton of iron. I was using my trash program, bottom 40% of the screen blacked out and creeping through the trash, just going slow and letting the Explorer do what it does best, lock onto deep coins. My guess is the trash was hiding this one as there were nulls all around it.
I would REALLY like to unleash a concentric coil in our parks to pick through all this junk, give me 10-12 inches of depth and a small cone shaped concentric detection pattern and I'd be a happy camper.
 
A rock solid large cent will hit high top/right corner Todd, often with just the bottom left 1/4 of the cursor still on the screen. You have to be forgiving though because the depth and corosion can pull them down the right edge of the screen well into the range where rusty bottle caps will false. Like big silver the pure signal gives them away verses the rusty caps which tend to pop and sound like crap.
The 1835 did that tonight, about 5/16ths down the right side, it even jumped left a few times about 1/4 inch which is odd for a large cent. It sounded solid but given the cursor behavior I was half thinking it was going to be a chunk of deep junk metal.
Thank goodness for the X1 probe, only the top 6 inches of ground had thawed in that spot, this coin was down around 10, I starting chopping away at the frozen ground thinking nuts I'm chasing some chunk of junk and thinking of giving up but the X1 probe said the target was small, large cent sized not big like a can lid so I kept at it.
Worst large cent signal I dug was on a farm, an uglier signal I had not seen before, it was way down in the lead range and well left of the right edge of the screen and was about 60% low iron tones and kept jumping left. But I had just dug two other large cents only a few feet away so I chased after this one, it was an 1812 if I remember correctly, surounded by old rusty nails.
 
..they look to be in great condition too. Wonder how they were missed before? Did they give a weak signal? Nice finds.
 
I dug a Coronet type LC last year like you dug on the farm. It was one of the worst signals I have ever heard with a coin that size. I dug it because of the high tones mixed in with the low grunts. It ended up being completely on-edge down about 7-8 inches. There was iron in the same hole that came out with the LC. Gotta love that Explorer.
-Bill
 
Charles,
I was pretty well convinced that the reason explorers have done so well in worked over sites was primarily because of the DD coil pattern was different than 30 previous years of concentrics. Don't think it can all be attributed to the electronics.
But sure would willing to give one a try. Didn't you build a concentric? Know Kco has some available just recently.
Chris
 
It is really not the coil but the unique desing of the Explorer. The primary difference between a concentric and DD coil are:
#The concentric has a slight advantage in depth if the coils are the same size.
#The cone shape of the electromagnetic foot print of the concentric make them a litte better for picking between deep targets such as coins mixed in with iron.
#A DD does not have as much external noise induced into them as a concentric so are often used on a VLF wide band detector.
#A DD has a narrow hot strip down the center of the coil from heal to toe so can be worked around surface trash and covers more ground at depth.
#The boat shape of a DD covers a little more ground that the same size of a concentric.
The primary reason a DD is used on a VLF is due to external noise rejection by the DD design. The other advantages are less of a factor but important.
The great depth of the Explorer is that it is a sub-group of a PI detector, has almost no problems with soil minerals, so can hit those ultra deep targets. The frequency ranges give great depth on low conductive metal, high conductive metals, and provides outstanding discriminatin and ID of targets. It also extracts conductive AND inductive data from the target so presents this as the coductive and ferrous contents of targets.
HH, Cody
 
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