Drop the lifetime warranty....

[WV62]

Why does Tesoro have to change to a meter...... When relic hunting no meter is used.....When water hunting no meter is used......When gold hunting no meter is used......Why do I need a meter to tell me if it is a coin. Meter falls out side the coin setting, I beleive Mr Meter and do not dig. Just think, it could have been a Token, Badge, button, small Gold coin, a Medal.

Grant you,Tesoro is not a Depth Monster but it will nail everything up tp 8 inches with a good solid tone. Tesoro came out with a meter machine with poor sales. When was the last time you saw a meter Tesoro, I have not ever seen one.

Tesoro is perfect, Lifrtime Warranty, Small and light, From very young to sick and old, Anyone can pick up a Tesoro and enjoy a nice day out. Go to any Treasure Forum or any auction site and you will see 1 used Tesoro to 5 of the other guys machines on there.

Make a Meter machine for maybe 1% of Tesoro users, I do not think so. Look at the posts and everyone agrees, NO METER. Their machines are eye apealing, not lunch box style, not off balance and everyone can afford one....THE PERFECT METAL DETECTOR COMPANY......
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WOW, you nailed it Happy_Hour.

Ron in WV

 

[Rainyday101]

Tesoro doesn't need a new mouse trap. The one they have now is kicking butt at a faction of the cost of its competitors. The lifetime warranty is just the icing on the cake.

tabman

Couldn't agree more!!!

Spirit Relic, there are plenty of other companys that make fancy display detectors so you can entertain yourself with all those jumping numbers and flashing icons. You seem to be complaining about Tesoro a lot lately.

 

[SpiritRelic]

There are so many factors why Tesoro is like it is.When you really like the product,you want to see it evolve also.Continue to be better,different ideas,lighter,smarter,faster.We support Tesoro buying there products,i don't want to switch brands because something they have interest me.Multi freq,notch.tones,numerical id etc,can only be obtained through using the new advancements in digital electronics.You can always have what works,and you can always make things better.For continued success the company has to stay ahead of the competition.Something about that product has to be better.I say continue to evolve with new ideas and products is the best way for a company to grow and be liked by even more detectorist.

 

[Southwind]

I think Tesoro has limited their user base by limiting their detector line. Continue making the lines they make, for their current users, and make a state of the art high end machine. If they can. Only makes sense.

 

[southboundhound]

As a newbie to dirt fishing, I like the brand and classic style of Tesoro. I was ready to jump on the digital display wagon, but decided to find a simple cheap unit to see if I really wanted to dig stuff... I decided the legendary customer support and solid performance reputation behind Tesoro made it worth trying an older but clean Amigo II.
I have enjoyed using it more than ever I thought I could. Learning tones, visualizing depth, finding my firsts while taking time to enjoy the areas I'm in.... The damn thing finds dimes 10" deep in dry sand. I've gotten good at plugs. Lol. My Amigo turned me on to the simple joy of finding a blasting clad quarter, trowel deep, after hearing nothing but more trashy echoes.
I now also have a Vaquero I need to register and learn, and a new Sand Shark coming in the mail, since I live near the beach.The SS competes with a more discriminating, much more expensive machine, neither has a display. Tesero's outperform many of their counterparts on youtube, and they have soul, like an American made Schwinn or a Snap-On wrench.
Granted, the tech is simple and appears a bit dated, but it works great, and look at the resale values if you can find them.
The auction is flooded with Aussie gear half as old that can't be serviced here in the U.S. any longer, due to lack of parts and service demands on so many bells and whistles.
Warranty and service are way more important than innovation, to me. Most people won't even need it, but it sure is nice to know it's there, in todays market.
Tesoro's unique business model is a strong selling point, and a solid way to maintain brand loyalty. Display or not. Tiny or not. Wireless or not...
Progress is cool too and I bet Tesoro has trick, or two up their sleeve... That bluetooth tie-in idea would be cool, to put my Apple on a Stick and coil...What's Spanish for "CandyApple?"
Til' then I'll take price, function, and a family run company that has my back.
I've got three outstanding machines for hundreds less than the price of an ETrac. Of course some would rather save it for the Etrac... Maybe I should have too? Nah.
Guess I am just brand loyal, -won a vintage C&G Bobcat today... Lol. Wonder if I can get it Tesoro serviced if needed? Probably...

 

[knarfj]

Tesoro did make some pretty high tech analog machines some years ago. I'm not sure why they gave up on them, mine sure worked well for me. That is until I got sold on what I was LED TO BELIEVE was a much better detector. The following is a clip from another resent post of mine.

For what its worth my first Tesoro was a Toltec 100, now that was a sweet machine. When it first came out, in my opinion, it was the best metal detector out there, whey ahead of its time. It had everything going for it and then some. I sure kick myself for letting it go. I trust I wont make the same mistake with my present Toltec II, which is a great backup machine and IMHO better than my F5 in some unique situations.

If you look close the two pictures help tell the story. It was hip mounted so it was near weightless to swing, had VID, manual ground balance, an all metal mode, TWO individual discrimination dials that you could switch back and forth between. Not to mention one of the discrimination dials had a notch feature that could be set to accept OR reject targets, the notch was also adjustable in width and could be located any were in the discrimination range. How cool is that for an early analog machine.

I found more gold jewelry with that Toltec 100 than any machine before or since.

 

[CWRelichunter]

.......you have almost picked up where I left off concerning a NEW Top-of-the-line Tesoro detector.

What I think most people on this forum don't understand is this:

1) Nobody has said: Change the audio.
2) Nobody has said: Change the discrimination.
3) Nobody has said: Tesoro has lousy service.

Those three items are the reason why people want a Tesoro.

Some of us, (me), are only suggesting to "ADD" (not subtract) more modern features that could appeal to more people--IN THE LONG RUN.

Why is this important? Because when us old farts die-off the next younger generation are going to be more VISUALLY oriented, and guess what's going to happen to Tesoro then?

Just my crystal ball perceptions.

J in FL

 

[Bleaver]

I completely agree about the Toltec 100. I miss mine too. I could tell when it found a picece of gold, the sound was very mellow and distinctive.

Oh, the gound balance set in all metal also set it in discriminate.

 

[Bleaver]

I don't disagree that lighter is better but without new materials lightening weight on coil and pole would result in a weak/flimsy platform. I think the size of the control box is mainly limited at this point by the battery and the manual control knobs. Manual controls on a well performing detector is the main factor I keep returning to Tesoro.

 

[allcav]

There are so many factors why Tesoro is like it is.When you really like the product,you want to see it evolve also.Continue to be better,different ideas,lighter,smarter,faster.We support Tesoro buying there products,i don't want to switch brands because something they have interest me.Multi freq,notch.tones,numerical id etc,can only be obtained through using the new advancements in digital electronics.You can always have what works,and you can always make things better.For continued success the company has to stay ahead of the competition.Something about that product has to be better.I say continue to evolve with new ideas and products is the best way for a company to grow and be liked by even more detectorist.

Because of this:
In July of 1980 dealers all over the country received a letter from Jack announcing the founding of Tesoro Electronics Inc. The first two paragraphs laid out the direction that Jack wanted the company to go and the ideas that we still live by today:

"It has become apparent to me over the past few years that there is a place for, even a need for, a metal detector manufacturer who is dedicated to the independent dealer market. The products should utilize the best of today's technology to provide maximum sensitivity. They should be rugged, but light enough that anyone can use them. They should do their job without "bells and whistles" that only increase the cost. And finally, the company should remain loyal to their dealers and be responsive to their needs and desires. It is with these principles in mind, that TESORO was founded in May of this year.
Tesoro is the Spanish word for treasure. The Spanish certainly seemed to understand and appreciate tesoro. Never in the history of the New World has there been a treasure hunt like the Spaniards held. It's hard to think of a better name for a company associated with treasure hunting, or a better symbol of our goals than the conquistador. As the Spaniards were yesterday's undisputed masters of treasure hunting, we at TESORO will always endeavor to meet our goal of making TESORO Metal Detectors today's undisputed masters of treasure hunting." "Jack Gifford, 1980"

Spirit, you are churning the butter. I am a country crock guy, and you like other brands.

 

[Bleaver]

I have mentioned my concern, every time I've sent one in for repairs, about the cost of mailing these machines back to us. That's been maybe 5 times over 30 years and maybe 25 machines. Tesoro has on every occation refused to accept payment for return shipping.
I think with the outstanding warranty provided a flat charge, maybe $25, would be more than reasonable.
Some folks send machines in on a regular basis to have a "check up" done. I have never understood why anyone would send in a machine thats working fine for a just because reason. To me that's abusing the system; buts just my thought.

 

[BillF]

Some folks send machines in on a regular basis to have a "check up" done. I have never understood why anyone would send in a machine thats working fine for a just because reason. To me that's abusing the system; buts just my thought.

I feel guilty thinking about sending in my Vaq just to be checked out. I sent in my 1983 Silver Sabre because it obviously had been going downhill for a couple of years. Didn't have any problems with that. I wont have any problems sending in the V if I think it isn't doing it's job. I can't imagine what it costs Tesoro in shipping fees.

 

[SpiritRelic]

For the info,i herd it was cool just to send in the box and coil.It easily unscrews from the shaft.Thanks for the post everyone.I just want the best for Tesoro.

 

[BillF]

It does just unscrew, but the box you need to ship it is about $12 at Usps. More at the other shipping places. I'm sure Tesoro gets cheaper shipping than that, but still........

For the info,i herd it was cool just to send in the box and coil.It easily unscrews from the shaft.Thanks for the post everyone.I just want the best for Tesoro.

 

[Tee1up]

That is a great mission statement. Never saw it until now but this is exactly why I swing a Tesoro.

"It has become apparent to me over the past few years that there is a place for, even a need for, a metal detector manufacturer who is dedicated to the independent dealer market. The products should utilize the best of today's technology to provide maximum sensitivity. They should be rugged, but light enough that anyone can use them. They should do their job without "bells and whistles" that only increase the cost. And finally, the company should remain loyal to their dealers and be responsive to their needs and desires. It is with these principles in mind, that TESORO was founded in May of this year.
Tesoro is the Spanish word for treasure. The Spanish certainly seemed to understand and appreciate tesoro. Never in the history of the New World has there been a treasure hunt like the Spaniards held. It's hard to think of a better name for a company associated with treasure hunting, or a better symbol of our goals than the conquistador. As the Spaniards were yesterday's undisputed masters of treasure hunting, we at TESORO will always endeavor to meet our goal of making TESORO Metal Detectors today's undisputed masters of treasure hunting." "Jack Gifford, 1980"

 

[BarryL]

I think Tesoro has limited their user base by limiting their detector line. Continue making the lines they make, for their current users, and make a state of the art high end machine. If they can. Only makes sense.

I guess ! Just means I will keep using their product and keep digging silver and save myself from all the hoopla of a overpriced machinefrom other manuf that wont ID any better than my Tesoros Enuff said ,

 

[fowlercharles]

Hi, Robert, Jack's statement speaks for itself, as has Tesoro's Solid Reputation ever since he made it! Maybe if Spirit (Hi Spirit) will stirr just a bit more he will realize that over the years that most, if not all of the other detector Mfgs' have made some, half hearted attempts to perk up their flimsy Warranty/Service reputations by trying to be more like Tesoro. Tesoro's Lifetime Warranty and Service as "smoked" ALL their butts to such shame, from Tesoro's beginning, that it is downright laughable! That's a fact! For anyone to think it a good idea, for Any Reason, for Tesoro to change in any way their Proven Successful, Lifetime Warranty/Service and Relations with their hoard of" Happy Campers", I would have to simply suggest they follow their wishes for such and such/whatever other type detector they have in mind and go with it elseware. Any future complaints with such detector /warranty/service could then be passed on to where it may be needed or appreciated.. HH, Charlie

 

[Rainyday101]

Fowlercharles, Amen. Lets move on to something more productive.

 

[SpiritRelic]

I don't know why i talk about stupid stuff for.But the Outlaw is the same detector i had in 1989.They could come out with some more updated type detectors.Lets move on to something more productive.Amen

 

[atomicscott]

For the info,i herd it was cool just to send in the box and coil.It easily unscrews from the shaft.Thanks for the post everyone. I just want the best for Tesoro.

This original post was surprising coming from you. You are such a diehard proponent of Tesoro, from all the posts I've read of yours. From my understanding Tesoro is doing just fine with their current line-up. I understand there are newer, sexier looking detectors out there, and at times I am tempted to try looking at a screen again, but if they don't perform I don't care how modern and sexy they look.