Excal vs CZ 21

[Aaron]

Hi Guys,
I want to get a new water machine and I am trying to decide between a cz21 and a ecal II . I have a cz 3d and had a cz 70 so Im very familar with the cz's sounds. Most of my hunting will be in fresh water. I realize the opinions on this forum will be biased toward the excal but I would like to hear your opinons anyway.
Thanks, Aaron

 

[Gulf Hunter]

Opinions vary, but since I HAVE owned both I lean towards the Excal. CZs LOVE iron too much, so I would run a PI if I wanted to find that much iron. Don't limit yourself to an Excal II though, the older ones work just FINE. Like a fine wine, sometimes the older is better, LOL! Just a humble scallawag's opinion mate, do as you will. If you DO choose the CZ or Excal, buy the 8" for fresh water as there is very little degradation of iron there and you will appreciate the better separation.

 

[Bling]

n/t

 

[Joe of South Jersey]

This was a topic last week, on the water forum, use link below.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?26,1103360,1103360#msg-1103360

 

[muggsc]

I agree with Gulf Hunter. I had the CZ 21 and traded it on my Excalibur about 3 years ago and have never been sorry. I have the 8" coil and thought maybe I would go to a bigger coil but from what I'm hearing on this forum that the 8" is very well supported. I'm thinking now that maybe a Sovereign would be nice.
Cal

 

[Frank in NH]

I use both plus pulse machines. Do freshwater most of the time. Use the Excal set up for wading (lot of iron) and CZ21 with 5" coil for diving, with 5" coil find it easer to find targets when you get out in the heavy silt and mud. Works for me but only my opinion, both great detectors.

 

[Willee - Texas]

If you plan to search in salt water the Excalibur is the better choice.
The CZ-20 and 21 just cant handle the saltwater very well.

In fresh water the CZ-20 and 21 will do fine.

Willee

 

[tvr]

The CZ-20 and 21 just cant handle the saltwater very well.

I strongly disagree with that statement. CZ's work very well in and around salt water. It's the environment they were designed to excel in. Very little falsing and then only when the sensitivity is way up. Iron can false as a high tone (coin). Slow the sweep down and the iron then gives itself away for what it is. Does that on land or in very shallow water; fresh or salt water where you can still swing too fast. When set up right, can search when you are as deep as you can go into the salt water all the way up to the dry sand with no setting changes and get good depth on targets. My CZ's paid for themselves in the first year of use.

I haven't used an Excal, so won't guess on a comparison.

What ever you choose, spend enough time with it to learn it well.
tvr

 

[JOHNMARKHAM]

enough said...

 

[ivanll]

I agree the CZ are superb beach and water units, both salt water ocean and fresh water rivers.(got 4 all in use)
I do not have an Excal II, but a GT with 10" and 15" coils also good for salt beach and water to 3 foot. (on a calm day, control housing chest mounted)