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Explorer SE...First Impressions

I,m trying to get rid of a few things I don't use so I can get a little more cash to work with...PM me & let me know what you're gonna do
 
An accurate, honest evaluation to the SE from a seasoned detectorist.
Gosh this forum needs more dancers and less wallflowers as we would all learn...
 
been waiting to read. You have brought up somethings I have not consider when hunting in trashy sites and thats all we have here. Ever since my first XS in 2000 I have alway used a gain of 5 to tell deep coins from shallow targets. I have read post that claims about when nothing is found at a site you must max out the gain, that has not happen to me so I am back at grain 5. I have to omit I love using the X-1 probe and hearing all the different tones and seperating them in the hole, finding them on edge, when using the probe I switch to -16 in semi-manual which I believe seperates that targets better without nulls and if you push pinpoint it's right at the tip of the probe everytime. I know this sounds like alot of steps but when I go down for a target I just feel like a little kid again, and I just want to enjoy every second of it, it might be my best find of the day because once you get it in your hand it's only a fading memory. If I sounded like a naysayer I am sorry but believe or not there are those who can only wish and dream to be able to buy a thousand dollars detector. If you got or get an older explorer you must buy a pointer or probe then you will be smiling like a kid again. I will be in Lake Charles Thanksgiving weekend and maybe we can do a relic hunt.
 
I don't use an EXP but I have to say that was one terrific post. After reading it I feel like I could go out buy an SE, get the coil you suggest, adjust the machine settings the way you say, and be half way to learning how to use it correctly. That's a keeper that people should print out if they use or plan to use an SE. :thumbup:

And I'm not a bit jealous that you are gettin' all that beach time in, really, not at all, not in the least, doesn't bother me......:rant:

HH
BarnacleBill
 
You have sold me on the SE. I had recent back surgery but after it heals a bit more I will buy one. The coil you used; is that a 4"x7" Excellerator? HH John R
 
Yes Arturo...Thank you...Arturo just gave me a Great Deal...Pretty soon I'll be keeping ALL of you busy asking for advice....Tom:clapping::minelab:
 
Excellent...that worked out well. I'll be making a post later with my test results...you won't be upset. But the bottom line is as I said...evolutionary, NOT revolutionary. The SE is a little more sensitive and has a few features and characteristics that make it a new improved Explorer. As some have aslo suggested, it's NOT exactly the same hunting with it. It's CLOSE.
 
The pinpoint will detune two times and that is all it will detune. The target will not detune out like a lot of machines will do. Just swing off the target a couple of times and the target will shrink down. For you old guys Detune, double clutching, shrinking the target all the same. This works great when you have the collocated targets as now you have ID when you are in pinpoint. You must pinpoint the target dead on though. It will work on all the coils I used with the SE. I have not used the Pitch Hold but a few times and have not figured out how much Sen. and gain I can get away with for it to run at max. Got to play with it some more. If anyone can tell me a little more about it I would like to hear what you think of it. I want all of you to know I have used a lot of coils on the Exp's since I have owned them but the Excellator DD 4.5X7 is by far the best coil I ever used for the trash and the iron. Old JW was talking the straight stuff when he said I would really like it and he is not wrong. Ya'll don't know how long I have looked for a coil that is deep and separates and will really work the trash and iron so well. I think it will stay on my SE most of the time. I think he said it was waterproof but I will seal it up real good just as I did with my Joey coil so I can use it in the water wading. BTW I am a water hunter and beach hunter about 75% of the time. Most of the time I am up to my neck in water with CZ20, Excal,or shallow water wading my Shadow X5 and cz 70. The rest of the time I hunt coins with some relic hunting whenever I get a chance. Another thing about the pinpoint it is starting to seem to me with a target at its max depth and the numbers jumping around that when you go to pinpoint and get it pinpointed dead on the numbers especially the conduct number is within one or two of the actual number and the ferrous number will read a few numbers higher. This is at the very edge of depth for the target. The numbers are more accurate in pinpoint mode on the real deep targets or so it seems to me. It will help you decide to dig or not. Anyway let me know what you find. With the faster processor and all the things you can do in pinpoint now, has made the Explorer a real deep trash hunter and that is what I hunt most of the time. It really worked good at the beach. I am going back to Fl down to see my Bud Chuck in Cape Coral and I am really looking to see what the SE will do on those non black sand beaches down there and some Seminole War sites we hunt. It worked great in Jax FL. in the black sand and I was very pleased with it's performance. Of coarse my Excal and CZ 70 will go along. Well got to go so get out there and go hunting. :D: :D: Later Jerry aka Tinfoil
 
All Mine Lab products are excellent and no doubt the SE has some nice improvements. Tried to make a little funny comparing machines. I will have to be more democratically politically correct in the future not to offend individuals wearing their MD feelings on their shirt sleeves.
 
Well, like you, I ended my post with a wink. So whatever.

But if you feel the need to be more politically correct, you would be more correct if you were "REPUBLICANLLY" politically correct. :lol:
 
Over to Fl. to see the kids in Jacksonville. Or I can go over to Galveston Tex. which is a 2.5 hr. drive one way. So I really have to settle for hunting the lakes around here which are pretty productive. I guess I am luck in that aspect. I don't get to hunt the beaches like you do :rage: . Maybe I will just buy me a Condo over in Jax move over there and go to the beach and hunt everyday :D: :D: . So what will be the next detector you are going to test. I hope it is that new Fisher. I guess I won't buy one till they make a smaller coil for it. I learned my lesson on that crap. No more detectors until they get a small coil for the trash hunting like I do. I just wounder when the new water detector will come out. Later bud Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
So what will be the next detector you are going to test. I hope it is that new Fisher.

Next detector I don't know right now, a rumored Garret relic machine is supposedly due in a few weeks, and I have been hearing rumors on a White's for about 8 months now. FT delayed the F75 but I am not un-happy about that, as I would rather see a manufacturer take the time to make sure a machine is bug free than rush it out. Looks like they're aiming at a Yankee release(spring). I don't think the F4 is going to cause a stampede down at the local Fisher dealer.

I just wounder when the new water detector will come out.


To be competitive in the beach market FT needs to get a credible CZ-20 replacement to market within the next year I would say, or they will essentially cede the beach market to ML. In the last year Fisher released 1 new machine, Whites 1 new machine, and ML 5 new machines.


Get out there and find some yellow stuff!

HH
BarnacleBill
 
Wow Tinfoil, great posts...

Talking about the pinpoint mode.
Over the last two weeks I was at an old country property, sniffing around ground infested with old iron and rust/rotten sheet metal odds and ends;
I found the pinpoint mode does a great job of estimating the size of bigger targets.

HH

Snowy :detecting:
 
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