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External Control Pots----Reliabilty

Sven

Well-known member
OK, so there has been some discussion amongst a few over the years about the external control pots used on the Deeptech units.
Think the major issue was they feel cheap and move about a bit when adjusted.
Well start with this issue. They flex a bit so you need your non detector hand to adjust them, instead of being able to adjust them
with your detector hand like a Tesoro. The main reason for this is the pots are not held in place on the Deeptech machines faceplate
with nuts as a standard pot. The face plate just has holes larger than the pot shaft diameter to slide thru. This was done to make it easy and faster
to assemble and dis-assemble a control box. Deeptech pots are soldered directly to the circuit board, they are not your standard pots that have solid metal shafts
with threaded shaft sleeves that can be nutted tight on the faceplate, used by other detector manufacturers. By using these pots, keeps building costs down and eliminates
a cobweb of wires inside like Tesoros and many others that are known after awhile to weaken and possible break at the solder joint.
Since the pots Deeptech use are solder mounted to the circuit board via 3 legs, they will flex a bit. This gives the Deeptech units a cheap feel about them. Deeptech now uses newer type knobs
that fit better and cause the pot to flex less.

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As for the pots themselves being used. They are basically a glorified trimpot. They are inexpensive and can be as cheap as the Pots used by major detector manufacturers.
Trimpots in general are soldered to circuit boards to be adjusted on a limited type basis as for calibrations, they were not designed for a continual adjustment, limited lifespan.
They come in many sizes and styles
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Deeptech uses the Phisor brand of trimpots they are larger than your standard trimpot with stronger solder leads(legs) for support.
"Our PT series are worldwide known, they are widely used in the household appliance and automotive market and it is difficult to find a home or a car without one of our "PTs"
Plastic material according to UL94V-0
Dust proof enclosure
Life up to 200k cycles
That's 200,000 rotations
http://www.piher-nacesa.com/pdf/14-PT15v03.pdf

For comparison, standard Alpha brand pot used by many have a rotational life of 15,000 cycles.
Really nothing wrong with the pots used by DeepTech overall.

The flex concern by many in the past boils down to I think, is that detectorists when making a pot adjustment have a tendency at first, grabbing the pot, is to push on it, upward like a lever, when its a rotational device..
When the pot mounted securely to a faceplate it would not flex.
A possible solution to this maybe Phisors plastic trimpot housing. Not sure if they make them with the threaded sleeve long enough. It could act as a hole bushing.
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Other than that, those that are concerned about the pots used by DeepTech, nothing really to worry about.
Shouldn't stop anyone from buying a DeepTech.
 
I've not read a single post on any UK forum about any reliability issues with deeptech machines apart from the early coils which could false on wet grass, they have been replaced with new waterproof coils so overall very reliable machines.
 
james1969 said:
I've not read a single post on any UK forum about any reliability issues with deeptech machines apart from the early coils which could false on wet grass, they have been replaced with new waterproof coils so overall very reliable machines.

Wasn't so much as anything on the UK forums or such.
It was a response to a quotation made in my last post about my finds a couple days ago.
I didn't want that person to make his decision to buy or not to buy a Deeptech based on the external control pots or give others the impression
there are mechanical failures with the pots used.

And was brought up here on this forum by several at one point as well as on some other US forums in the past.
Think the main issue, early on when the DT were first imported, centered around the pots was with the knobs, some were not a snug fit on the pots plastic shafts and would rotate on the stem splines
and wear them down. Since the shafts were hollow, they can compress and provide a loose fit. The new knobs are a sung fit.
 
As I own two of the earlier Deeptech models, the Gold and RG 1000 V2, I can say that the earlier knobs would easily slip if turned to either the minimum or maximum limit, making it hard to figure out exactly where your settings were each time you used the machines. With the new stile of compression knobs that Deeptech sold for the replacement of the original knobs there is never any slip or flimsy feel to the shafts and the knobs fit flush to the faceplate of both detectors. Really a nice upgrade. All new Deeptechs have no problems as they have been upgraded at the factory as I understand it. Just part of a good company listening to its customers and striving to constantly improve their product line. Really great machines for the price and great customer service...Stuart
 
james1969 said:
I've not read a single post on any UK forum about any reliability issues with deeptech machines apart from the early coils which could false on wet grass, they have been replaced with new waterproof coils so overall very reliable machines.


I got a problem with my Volume pot sometimes the sound goes very low then come back my Vgold is a "UK" machine i hope someone will be able to fix it except from that very nice machine!!!Not too sure how old is my Vgold......:(


RR
 
PM DeepTech directly with serial number of the unit and coil and they can tell you.
 
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